Thank you to all the dumb arses that had to impulsivley buy the promo figures! You could have made a statement with your wallets and had not bought the figures at 19CB until they were at least single figure boosters.

You could have had them reconsider the 9CB promo figures pricing structure that they had previously had, but you failed Epic-ally. Shame on you noobs and your consumer mentality. Have some restraint and learn 2 save and manage your money better! Why pay more when you could have paid less....?

I don't blame Icarus Studios. That was a smart business move on thier part. They did a test run of promo figures at 9CB, then up the priced to 19CB to see how many fools would continue to pay for the promo figures at double the price. They tracked their sales and seen fools were willing to part with more of their money(double) for the same product they had once gotten for less.

I wouldn't change the price either, if they are getting people that are willing to pay that. Matter of fact why don't they up the price again to 29CB for promo figures and see how many people are still willing to pay triple for a product they once got for 9CB?

I happily paid a 45 cent premium to gain access to each of these figures before they were released in a full set.

Will continue to do so for the next set's previews and be thankful for the opportunity.

Shame on you! Your inability to manage your finances and see past your own selfish impulsiveness cost a starving child in Africa his life.

That extra 45 cents you think so little of could have put food in his mouth! Now because you decided to have your carpy "Prowler" at a "premium" price you let a child starve....

Unlike you I shall not pay that "premium" price for another promo heroclix, so that a starving child may live!

P.S. On a serious note Crimmy, how much is HCO paying you in money or figures for going around to all these threads and praising the ground they walk on? No matter what the subject your constantly spouting some kind of propaganda in thier favor...

Whenever there is a thread or post with any negative connotation or some form of criticism aimed at HCO, you quickly come to their rescue with damage control.

I only respond that way to things I see as completely wrong. So far, your posts are pretty much the only ones.

You don't know as much about me as you think. Go on to the Icarus HCO forums and look for my oldest posts. I argued very hard about HCO's original price structure, because it was completely wrong - way too high. Now, it's exactly where it should be. I also regularly criticized them for the length of time between sets.


p.s. I manage my money/CB just fine. I currently have 5x as many CB as I've ever purchased, as well as a full collection. If you think 19CB is too much to pay to get a good piece early, you're the one doing it wrong.

It's exactly where it should be? Single figure boosters cost more (about double) per unit and are way riskier. Are... are you from bizarro land? I guess I'm just not the target market for over priced virtual figs that'll be gone sooner rather than later

Original price structure = 239 CB per 5 figure booster (about 48 CB per figure, over twice the current price). No singe figure boosters were ever 9 CB, only a few figures of the week were for a few weeks.

So it's down to 19 per single figure booster? That you could pull 10 commons from in a row, since there's no guarantee of distribution. I have not had this problem with AvM code boosters but obviously someone is going to have to get the unlucky boosters that didn't have chase loki in them.

I guess technically you are correct and it is a reduction (and technically is the best kind of correct). But why do I still feel like single figure boosters are a shameless ripoff? Oh well.

Swampdog's right Crimmy. How many people have bought a physical cases of AVM where you are guaranteed to pull a chase Loki in the real case, but then when you enter all the codes from that physical case you don't pull a single virtual chase Loki....

The new pricing structure is not that great when you factor in the fact that there is no guarantee of rarity distrubution as there is with the physical product. I spent money on 5 HoT single boosters myself and pulled 4 commons and 1 uncommon. I've also heard people complain on HCO in chat that they bought 10 single boosters and didn't get a single rare.

So, no the price is not where is should be. If you buy 5 figures you should be guaranteed a rare. How would you feel if you bought a physical 5 figure booster from you local comic shop and you recieved nothing but commons in it?

You say you manage your money and CB just fine, but I don't think paying 19CB for a Blob a couple weeks early testifies to that comment. An intelligent person would wait for the set to come out and do one of two things:

1).Buy a single figure booster and have the added chance of pulling a SR, such as Magneto.

-or-

2). Wait until other people buy the boosters when the set comes out and get someone elses doubles of Blob when they put him on the AH for 5CB like every other figure on the AH now.

Yes, you are right I did notice that you seem to comment on all my threads/opinions regarding HCO....

I mean I like you too Crimmy, but you need to get rid of that virtual boner for me.

I don't think you should be commenting on people managing their CB when you're actually buying HoT single figures boosters. Obtaining those figures through a sealed both guarantees you rares or better, and gives you a chance at free CB and more. Currently, buying single boosters of IC and HoT is the most blatant act of throwing your CB away.

Also, of course Blob isn't worth buying when the GSX set is actually available. It's all about obtaining the figure before that date. That's the whole reasoning behind the figure previews. Nobody is forcing you to buy them, but to many of us that would like to use the figures before the set is released, it's a wonderful opportunity. It's only a clear waste if you don't plan on using that figure before the official release.

I only tend to comment on your posts in this thread because A) Icarus has much better things to do than listen to the silliest cost complaint I've ever heard, and B) New people that stumble onto a thread like this may be discouraged if they believe you that Icarus is on some evil money grab when just the opposite is true, and perhaps they need to see that not everyone on HCO is demanding and insulting.

You just proved my point Crimmy! You flat out said spending money on a single figure boosters is the biggest waste of money or CB on HCO. So I'll take that reasoning one step further using your logic...

If in your opinion throwing away money and CB is to buy a single figure booster in which you still have a chance to pull a chase or a SR from, then tell me what does that mean to the people who buy the promo figures? Because for the same cost without those odds of pulling a chase or SR you spend the same 19CB.

I don't know Crimmy, but I would rather pay the same amount on a single figure booster and perhaps pull a rare, super rare, or a chase than to own a Blob or Prowler 2 weeks early...

I liken it this way Crimmy; people who buy the blind single figure boosters are getting more for their investment. While people who buy promo figures to have them a couple weeks earlier are just impatient and impulsive.

Also you say that you answer my post because they are silly and discouraging, but the fact is many people on this thread have agreed with me more than they have with you. You also have failed to address the garantee of distribution with single figure boosters which is a valid complaint and argument.

It's obvious your in bed with Icarus studios, the "HCOL director" above your title shows your alligence. If you want to argue on their behalf that is fine, but please back up your arguments and address the facts. Your like a politican talking in circles. All you say is, "HCO prices use to be to high, but now they are just right...."

1). The single figure guarantee of distribution is no longer implemented.
2). The games graphics are still horrendous by today's standards.
3). Lack of available figures and sets to choose from.
4). Games crash all the time. Hell for the last month with the "Blue Sky" crash I find it hard to even start a game with out freezing.
5). The game still has many known bugs that should have been adressed months ago. The Blue Sky bug has been know about for well over a month and has gotten worse with every new update. The Mastermind bug has been known about for longer than 3-4 months and still isn't fixed...

I never said they are an evil money grubbing corporation, but if your going to sell a product then that product needs to be a quality product. Crashes, exploits, and bugs need to be fixed immediately to maintain the integrity of the game. If they weren't taking peoples money I would understand things not getting fixed promptly, but they are. Having concerns addressed from your consumers is to be expected from a company that takes your money.

By single figure booster, I mean the HoT or IC booster. Buying the promo pieces is not the same thing at all, and is only a waste if that set is already out.

To some people, owning that piece X weeks early (we don't always know) is very much worth it, when there is no current alternative method of obtaining that figure.

If you buy blind single figure boosters of a set that's available for sealed play, you are giving up the chance to win CBs or an LE figure, as well as guaranteed rares or better from 1/5 of your pulls. If you buy promo figures, do benefit in that you get the figures several weeks early.

What? Only a few people have even responded to this thread. 2 of them have agreed with me, and the 1 that agreed with you admitted that I was right.

Tinfoil hat time. I back up everything I post, and Was one of HCO's biggest critics for months. I'm always very vocal with I see something that needs changing.

1. It is in sealed format, not in the HCO store.
2. This game is a virtual representation of a board game. Considering that, the graphics are pretty good. Heck, the company that designs the Heroclix sculpts is this very same company.
3. The game is still in beta.
4. This is currently a huge problem, that hopefully they are in the midst of addressing.
5. They are pretty slow to fix most bugs, but recently they've solved many longstanding bugs. They will probably not take the game out of beta till most of that is fixed.

Hey.

If you recall, i'm the guy that started HCO in December and immediately wrote this post about the pricing structure.

I complained. I said that they needed to change to remain viable. I spent money, I was winning CB back, but the average player wasn't able to have fun for a reasonable amount of cash.


When they changed the pricing structure, I was overjoyed. I agree with Crimmy. Not only because he is right, but moreover because the figures of the week are silly things to be complaining about.

Complain because there aren't enough sets (hopefully, that will get us more sets soon [wooo! GSX+WOS!]). Complain about the rarity structure if you want it changed. ...But figures of the week? They are promotional, they are temporary, they are previews.

That would be like if Wizkids started selling Adam Warlock (Common) from GG for $3 a week before the set came out (or a month, or 2 months). Is he worth $3? NO! Would people have bought him? OF COURSE! It isn't feasible to sell a figure like that physically, but it is feasible in digital form. I think they struck upon a genius marketing plan for HCO that has already paid off in the reduction price of sealed tournaments and modern age boosters.

I'm not complaining about the figures of the week themselves. You people seem to miss the point. I'm complaining about the shady underhanded business tactic of selling figures of the week for 9CB for almost 2 months and then doubling their price to 19CB.

I'm sorry, but a reputable business with some form of public relations and a sense of smart business practice doesn't pull a stunt like that. The price has more than doubled for no apparent reason except to see if people would still pay more than double the price for them.

If you walked into your grocery store and was use to paying $3.29 for a gallon of milk and then seen the price jump to $8.00 for no reason except to see if people would pay that price for it, I'm sure a majority of shoppers would be furious. To me this no different. The bottom line is it was a very shady and under-handed thing to do.

Crimmy I'm tired of hearing the game is in beta. If they are taking peoples money, they lose the right to say they are in beta. Any reputable gaming company will never charge for a beta. I've played many MMO beta's and was never charged a cent. (World of WarCraft, Lord of The Rings, Diablo II, DC Universe). The moment money is exchanged is when the game is no longer considered a beta.

You must live a pretty sheltered life Crimmy, because you say it's just a board game so, the graphics and game play are great when you consider that. Obviously you have not played any virtual board games lately. Go download Monopoly for your iPad or iPhone that game puts HCO to shame as does many others.

You also say this company designs the sculpts for the physical heroclix product. I'm aware of that Crimmy and if you haven't noticed the sculpts are just okay. Some of the best sculpts and paint jobs in all of heroclix were done for Armor Wars, Fantastic Forces, Sinister, and Super Nova. What ever company designed those sculpts and whoever painted those old sets are the people I want back on the job! Any heroclix aficionado will agree.

Also Beast, they said 9CB price was a trial and a mistake.

Stores all the time misprice product. After a wile they realised that it was too low and not feasable, so they upped the price. It's not like they went back and charged everyone who payed 9 CB for figures an additional 9CB without asking.

Prices change all the time sometimes up sometimes down. I agree the interface/program needs alot of work and they will need to be makeing money to do more work. I have no problem with paying more.

Honestly I was ok with the origonal priceing (Yes I was willing to pay full price) but I am estatic about the new price changes. My inital investment will go a very long way now and I will definitly pay more as needed.