I'm hoping this means we get more Revengers. Most of them you have to use a fresh sculpt for, and I did enjoy that Annual story. Sad they reused Hollywood, when they could have really blown us away with an Ionic version and then made the Revengers version the flesh colored one. But, that a this point is beating a dead horse.
It seems I might have to budget for a GF set Spiderwoman and Wonderman look like great pieces to have.
Still, theme wise this is promising.
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i like the gf and ff figs for providing different feels and differentn point costs for a character, that way i have more flexibility for team building. i have no problems with sculpt reuse if:
*it's the same character
*it could be an le f the character, especially if that gets the character in a set they wouldnt be in and doubly especially if that character was unclicked
we had every indication that the recent sets were planned to be small. they turned out not to be with some sculpt reuse indicating to me that those were more likely the ones added in due to the easier production compared to unique sculpts. the question becomes, is sculpt reuse such a point of contention for you to not want those characters made?
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Hmm...Revengers Keyword....This better mean we get a Century in this set....and with him here (as a Hollywood repaint as expected) I will be shocked if one of the Chase duos is no him and Beast (using the GSX one for the dial)
gsx beast could fit right on top of Simon's head
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Decent figure.. love the SP..
As for the re-used sculpt.. I look at it this way.. they could either re-use the sculpt and include Wonder Man.. or NOT re-use the sculpt.. and NOT include Wonder Man in the set..
Would rather have him with a re-used sculpt then to not have him at all..
this is my understanding as well
If I could make only one 'clix: the Melter (Marvel) or Negative Man (DC)
It hurts my fingers [burrrrrns] to type it, but Beast is totally correct about the parts reusage and stuff in general toy lines. With Transformers, Hasbro routinely pumps out every mould at least 3 times. And everything from the DC Universe line uses stock bodies. And GI Joes have been Frankensteining figures for years.
I really don't know why everyone's getting so worked up about it. Save your ire for when they reuse a sculpt when it doesn't really make sense [like Man Beast], and don't use it here, where there's a complete repaint and head swap and the thing is definitely the guy it's meant to be. And with Hank Pym, where it's sorta clever.
You sculpt reuse haters: forget the fact that a sculpt has been reused at all, and make a list of reused sculpt where the chosen sculpt for reuse doesn't make sense. I feel the list would be very short.
No. It's called trying to reduce rising costs rather than raise prices.
You have no idea of how much costs have risen over the years.
Wizkids was making allot more larger size sculpts between 2007 and 2010 (AV-HOT). They started making most, if not all figures in every set starting with BB, smaller (shorter and/or thinner). They also started re-using same sculpts for different characters/figures in the GSX Set. I also read they stopped using in-house US hand sculptors to design the figures, and went to the less expensive digital computer design. They also started making the Powers Cards thinner.
I beleive Wizkids was making money at the time they were making AV-HOT (I think I read about $1 Million per year), based on something I had read once. They must have been for NECA to purchase the game. We were only one year removed from HOT when they started making most if not all sculpts smaller, so the costs could not have gone up that much during that time. Also, all the money they are saving from not doing hand sculpts, is going in their pocket, and not towards continuing to make the sculpts slightly taller and thicker, as they were making them, as late as HOT, which to me makes them more undesirable to look at, and not as Collectible. Based on about 4-5 Polls, it appears there is a good percentage (not majority), who say they will buy less, if the sculpt size stays as small as it has been since BB for the most part, and if they keep reusing sculpts. Those percentages ranged from approx. 18%-34%-50%, and in another Carded Figure Poll, most people likes the sculpts in GSX the best, but I think it was due to the Colossals, since the majority of all other votes went to CR: AA; and HOT. Of course I liked SI the most.
I think those who may prefer the smaller size would still buy them even if they were larger, since they have been buying them when they were larger and when they were smaller over the past 10 year, however, the smaller percentage who prefer the larger size sculpts, like AA size or SI Doom size or CR Earth 2 Superman size, indicate they would buy more if they made them sligthly larger, which is only money in the bank for Wizkids, if the additional amount sold, outweighs the cost to make them slighlty larger again which I think would be the case. Now if that allows them to make more money and get more people in the game or staying in the game, I would not understand why people would not be for it.
Even if the rising oil prices affected them, I do not beleive it was that significant enough to justify making figures smaller or re-using sculpts, or flooding us with too much at one time, and those costs were offset anyway by another cost cutting measures, mentioned above. Nothing wrong with trying to do things to make more money, but to me to make sculpts smaller and lackluster and use duplicate scults, is a bad move for a Collectibles or Miniature Figure strategy game, where the sculpts really make the game. IMO
As a brief note from my experience in retail, toy lines DO NOT do this. They might repaint Batman 5 times for 5 different versions of Batman, but that's about the extent. They often have entirely new models for different characters (exception: War Machine), but repaints are usually the same character. WizKids manner of sculpt reuse is a bit in the abusive side. Reusing a sculpt once is forgivable (ex. Hulk Robot), but using it again in the next set and having it show up not once, but twice in the main set and a GF version is inexcusable. We know certain character get reprinted every set, and we know certain character share connections with previous set characters. However, that doesn't give Wizkids the green light to repaint the sculpt and call it new.
The JLU line was one of the most popular toy lines in the past ten years. That line used the same body type for 90% of the figures produced.