I saw it with high expectations and was sad to see that none of them were even close to being met. Not even close.
Bane wasn't developed enough as a character, and wasn't even close to the comics. Like, I knew he was going to be a lot different but the artistic license Nolan took with his character was a bit too much of a far cry from who he is. It was so big that they could have named him something different and no-one would have known the difference. Alfred wasn't Alfred; I won't spoil what happens, but he does something that is so out of character it made me want to tear my hair out. The fights between Bane and Batman weren't very cinematic; the fights in Rocky were better. I felt like Batman was just fighting any other street thug. The choreography wasn't very good or dynamic. The fight between him and the Joker in TDK was better. As for the plot, I felt like I was watching a reworked rehash of the plot of the first movie. I get they needed to connect this one to the rest of the series, but I felt the connection was overpowering and, dare I say, silly.
The twist at the end KILLS the flow of the movie. It was a twist that just made me think "Okay, cool, but was that at all necessary?" If a twist makes you do that, to me, it was a failure. Unfortunately, that twist has a very heavy impact on the movie as a whole, as well as tarnishing (because saying ruin would be too harsh) several characters, and making a lot of the films buildup kind of irrelevant. In fact, the twist at the end was almost as pointless as Catwoman. I keep trying to figure out why she needed to be in the movie. It was my same reaction to the twist. She's cool, but did we really need her to be in the movie? She just seemed like an extraneous character that was just kind of there being like "Hey look, I'm Catwoman!"
Finally, the ending. Imagine the Lord of the Rings: The Return of the King. Now imagine that every one of the multiple endings that it had was a loose end. That's the ending of The Dark Knight Rises.
This film was not what I was ready for. It was just plain disappointing. The acting's good. The music's great. The effects are awesome. The plot, however, was lacking. Honestly if they took out Catwoman, changed a few things involving Alfred and the dynamic of the fight scenes, totally reworked the last 40 minutes of the movie so we didn't have the god-awful twist that Nolan, for whatever reason, thought was necessary, and didn't have a bunch of loose ends at the finale, then maybe this would have been the movie we were all waiting for. But as it stands....
The Dark Knight did not rise. He fell. Actually, he crashed and burned.
Just put the pipe down and walk away drugs lead to nothing but ruin
I liked the movie overall. The only thing I didn't like was how it jumped around at times though. I understand that it was a long movie but I think the editing at times was a little rough. There were a few times, especially after Gotham falls where they would be one place and then in another and then another with not a great explanation of where they were, how they got there or why they were there.
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I felt that the time thing, the bomb ticking down, was a little bit forced. At first it was 5 months and then they had it down the exact second it was going to blow. But besides that I liked everything else.
I also think it would have left a little bit different tone if for the ending scene it just showed Alfred eating lunch and looking up and smiling but not actually showing Bruce. Kind of like how Nolan finished Inception where you aren't really sure whether it was reality or not.
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Honestly thought amazing Spiderman was a better movie. Felt they took Dark Knight Returns, Knightfall, and no man's land and tried to tell it all at once. Was too much story that they just couldn't tell at once. Should have been told in two movies ending the first with Bane breaking Batman's back. Also to me they messed up the ending,
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Should have had Superman show up and take the nuke into space to have it blow up there. Nolan is producing the Superman movie.
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Sigh. I did my part to try and get that thread back on topic.
#### it. Now I'm gonna troll it like my name was Wade Wilson.
I was shocked as I started to see people talking about this movie online. I, and the group that I saw it with, all pretty much agreed that this movie was terrible and 100% disappointing. My short list of complaints was as follows (mind you that I could write a lot about the topic):
1. Bane's voice was WAY over the top and, consequently, cartoony. I was laughing instead of being scared.
2. The two best actors in the film: Michael Caine and Gary Oldman, did nothing for half the movie.
3. The 'genius' plan of the main villian was disjointed and made no sense.
4. The world is three dimensional, so destroying all of the bridges onto an island does not make it an inpenetrable fortress.
5. John Blake's twist was predictable, forced, and was more of a middle finger to the audience than a nod.
6. The characterization of Bane was poor, done too late in the film, and was ultimately negated.
7. The 8 year gap from the last movie put a cast of characters on the screen that we knew nothing about, and consequently had no emotional connection to.
8. The idea that the entire police department was incapacitated in the way that they were is completely senseless and lazy.
9. There was literally no reason for Bruce and Miranda's relationship other than the fact that they were both physically attractive.
10. I don't understand why Nolan went with the whole 99%/occupy Gotham thing. It was stupid and lazy and it will make the movie extremely dated in 5 years.
So, if you haven't seen the movie yet, do not click my spoiler box!
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So to those who are complaining about Bane's voice, did none of you have the slightest thinking that he wasn't really Bane at all? After listening to Bane talk, and looking at his facial expressions, for about 45 minutes of the film, I half-assed convinced myself that Bane was Ra's al Ghul.Well, a more beefy version of him. Next time you watch it, tell me that Bane's voice couldn't be Liam Neesons. I had really thought it was him for quite some time during the movie.
Was I the only one who was severely disappointed in the last 30 minutes of this movie?
I feel like they just beat the Source material to death with a lead pipe.
No friend, I completely agree with you. The whole sense of time in the climax leading up to it was sloppy and took me out of the experience of the movie. And the 'countdown' thing was so cliched I felt like it belonged in a summer 'B' action movie.