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Old 08/01/2012, 10:10
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Tjey need to retire him into golden age already

I meant broken in 300 modern age, in higher point games, the is less of an issue.

Once we get that Bruce Jenner SR in the next set, it will nerf him quite a bit.
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I ussially build around him, with Park, you know that+1 on eberything againts phelps trait.
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I just foinished watching the US women Vs China in team volleyball. That third set was incredible. Some of the best play of the games so far.
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Some Japanese boxer (Shimatzu?) just got jobbed against the guy from Azerbaijan. I don't know what happened, but this is another black eye for boxing. Need to clean up dirty referees and judges - see Manny Pacquoa's last match.
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A strange day of Olympic officiating was met with a bit of justice in the end.

Satoshi Shimizu of Japan will now advance to the bantamweight quarterfinals thanks to a ruling from the AIBA overturning the official decision in his bout with Magomed Abdulhamidov of Azerbaijain.

A statement from the AIBA reads as follows:

“After reviewing the video of Bout #105 involving Bantamweights Satoshi Shimizu (Japan) and Magomed Abdulhamidov (Azerbaijan), the Competition Jury made the following decision:

- The boxer from Azerbaijan fell down six (6) times during the 3rd round. According to our rules, the Referee should have counted at least three (3) times. In this case, following the AIBA Technical & Competition Rules, the decision should have been RSC (Referee Stop Contest);

- Therefore the protest lodged by the Japanese corner is accepted and the result of this bout overturned.

AIBA officials will consider on Thursday morning whether to sanction the referee of this bout.”

Their Round of 16 bout was one of the most bizarre in Olympic history, one which saw Shimizu attempt to rally from two knockdowns and a seven point deficit heading into the final round. The Japanese southpaw tried his hardest to pull a rabbit out of hat, repeatedly drilling Abdulhamidov to the point of having him out on his feet at several moments.

Abdulhamidov sensed he was in deep trouble and suddenly began searching for ways to kill the clock. Frequent flops to the canvas followed, as well as requests to adjust headgear that never actually moved. Referee Ishanguly Meretnyyazov decided for whatever reason to waive off the majority of the flops, save for one occasion where he finally issued a two-point warning.

More concerning was the three knockdowns that went unrecognized. Shimizu – who never took a backward step the entire night even after being floored twice himself – repeatedly scored with straight lefts that had Abdulhamidov in all sorts of trouble. The AIBA rightfully recognized that the referee blew the calls, which if properly enforced would have resulted in a stoppage win for Shimizu.

The overturning of the final verdict allows Shimizu to move within one fight of the medal round. He will face Mohamed Ouadahi of Algeria in the final bantamweight bout on Sunday, August 5.
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see at least the officials AIBA are willing to overturn an obviously wrong decision. The sport of professional boxing is more where you find the crooked stuff happening and its because its go so much money involved.
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I think the AIBA had to do this. I watched the match on NBC as it was unfolding and it was obvious that it was fixed. The announcers were screaming about it and even though the match had ended, you still believed the Japanese fighter would win and when he didn't one of the announcers said something to the effect of, "This is why the sport of boxing has its own black eye. This was wrong."

The referee should be banned for a minimum of two years. This was all on him and maybe the judges, but that's for an inquiry to find out.
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Man, now someone *really* owes Roy Jones, Jr., an apology. And, you know, a gold medal.
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This is just another example of why I refuse to acknowledge boxing as a sport. This was egregious enough to actually cause the AIBA to step in but this is the exception. Match fixing and points shaving is the rule in amateur competition just as much as it is in the pros, and boy howdy is it ever the rule in the pros. Just enough was done to silence the media but don't look for the ref or the judges to miss very much work because of this.
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It's kind of an open secret in boxing that you really don't want to allow a fight to go to a decision in places like Nevada. Even though Vegas hosts a ton of big-name bouts, the judges there are widely regarded to be subpar. It's not like the NFL or baseball, where they recruit the best of their best officials to call the big game. They use locals for everything, from undercard to main event. And that gives you results like the Pacquiao fight, where anyone who knows even the first thing about boxing ends up with scoring that's totally at odds with the official result.
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It's kind of an open secret in boxing that you really don't want to allow a fight to go to a decision in places like Nevada. Even though Vegas hosts a ton of big-name bouts, the judges there are widely regarded to be subpar. It's not like the NFL or baseball, where they recruit the best of their best officials to call the big game. They use locals for everything, from undercard to main event. And that gives you results like the Pacquiao fight, where anyone who knows even the first thing about boxing ends up with scoring that's totally at odds with the official result.
It's not just vegas though. The home cooking in places like Mexico is crazy. How many fights did De La Hoya or Chavez "win" against all evidence to the contrary? And that isn't a slam on just Mexico it is just an example of what goes on everywhere.

Though to ensure that I'm not just negative all over the place I should say that other than boxing and the Badminton debacle I have been impressed by the Olympics thus far. And even in those two cases they did a good job of making the right call and fixing things right away. So good work London 2012.
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As the best ever, I'd prefer to see [Phelps] go out at the top of his game instead of having to depend on his teammates to get him his only gold of these games so far.
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Yes, much better, but I wonder if he'd have been able to beat Lochte had Lochte not raced earlier. Still Phelps' win was fantastic and I'm glad he won in an individual.

The point about leaving at the top of his game is more a reference to Mickey Mantle and Willie Mays. It was worse for The Mick since his years affected his batting average and made it so he finished below 300 for his career.
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And what is up with Trampoline being an Olympic sport? What's next, jumping up and down on your bed?
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