• RealmsRadio.com
  • HeroClix
  • MechWarrior
  • Mage Knight
  • Vs.System
  • World of Warcraft
  • Yu-Gi-Oh!
  • Monsterpocalypse
  • GridReality Maps
  • CCGDB
  • NetDeck.com
  •  
  • Home
  • Forums
  • Units
  • iTrader
  • Albums
  • Groups
  • Blogs
  •  
Go Back   HeroClix Realms > HeroClix: General > HeroClix Strategy & Tactics > Combat Formations: Discuss & Review
Reload this Page The Face-Melting Meta Thread
Register All AlbumsBlogs FAQ Members List Calendar Mark Forums Read

Notices
You are currently viewing HCRealms.com, The Premier HeroClix Community, as a Guest. If you would like to participate in the community, please Register to join the discussion!
If you are having problems registering to an account, feel free to Contact Us.

Reply
Page 37 of 47 « First < 2733343536 37 38394041 > Last »
 
Thread Tools
Old 03/06/2013, 13:20
    #541
jtallday
all up in it
jtallday's Avatar
Offline
Online Status:
Mar 2012
Join Date:
949
Posts:
2 (100%)
iTrader:
Quote : Originally Posted by jonidschultz View Post
Ditto.

Didn't I already post this team?
Brother Voodoo 79
GCPD Cruiser 68
GCPD Officer 30
GCPD Cycle Piloted 27
Deadman 87 + UB 9
=300
So if you're facing like WL Sinestro Roulette, then you MC WL to pilot the Cycle, then take out Roulette. On the other hand against like Superman/Eradicator you MC Superman to pilot the Cruiser, then work on Eradicator. Even against like a team with Daimon you can Run him over with the Cruiser, and reposition him so his team loses immunity to MC. Deadman can PB to help with clean up, is tough to take out and they'll eat Mystics for trying, and he can Heal the Cruiser if he needs to.

man i cant lie this deck idea is already stolen, it's so darn good. the only thing i would do differently is run sog starfire only because i love a 12+ point belt to stop ta's, and penetrating 2 targets at the same time is cool.
call me old bob
bush smiters unite
stuff b gettin moldy in the cave
Quote : Originally Posted by dairoka View Post
Your effects may varry.
Haves and Wants Reply With Quote
jtallday
View Public Profile
Find More Posts by jtallday
Old 03/06/2013, 14:04
    #542
TODDRUSSELL
Member
TODDRUSSELL's Avatar
Offline
Online Status:
Mar 2011
Join Date:
1,124
Posts:
1 (100%)
iTrader:
Anyone read the front page today? Who else is kickin out the jams right now buildin a sick team for regional?
TO THE GAME OF GAMES!!
YUKON CARDS & COMICS Lewisburg PA
HCOL League 1 Winner
Haves and Wants Reply With Quote
TODDRUSSELL
View Public Profile
Find More Posts by TODDRUSSELL
Old 03/06/2013, 14:06
    #543
Ignatz_Mouse
Time for Angle Man clix!
Ignatz_Mouse's Avatar



Online
Online Status:
Apr 2003
Join Date:
38,612
Posts:
1
Blog Entries:
151 (100%)
iTrader:
Too far away from me.

I can't complaint too much, I live only a few hours from Gencon.
GSX and more for sale-- virtually everything in the set!
UNCLIXED article series



Farwell, Soxolas.
2¢
Haves and Wants Reply With Quote
Ignatz_Mouse
View Public Profile
Visit Ignatz_Mouse's homepage!
Find More Posts by Ignatz_Mouse
View Blog
Old 03/06/2013, 15:29
    #544
jonidschultz
Member
Offline
Online Status:
Aug 2003
Join Date:
3,744
Posts:
13 (100%)
iTrader:
Quote : Originally Posted by jtallday View Post
man i cant lie this deck idea is already stolen, it's so darn good. the only thing i would do differently is run sog starfire only because i love a 12+ point belt to stop ta's, and penetrating 2 targets at the same time is cool.
Actually it had FF Supergirl, but when I was posting the team, which I posted like a month ago but apparently on FB, not here, and I've never bothered testing btw, I realized it was over on points, lol. So I changed it. I had a hard time deciding between TabApp Bats (61pt), SoS Bats, Tabapp WW and a few others.
Quote : Originally Posted by Japete61 View Post
Thanks, I will defiantly download it and read up on the subject.
I don't usually check back into a Team Help thread, so if I offered assistance and you have more questions or need more help feel free to PM me.
Haves and Wants eBay Reply With Quote
jonidschultz
View Public Profile
Find More Posts by jonidschultz
Old 03/07/2013, 11:07
    #545
kthomas609
Member
kthomas609's Avatar
Offline
Online Status:
Oct 2003
Join Date:
100
Posts:
0 (0%)
iTrader:
Quote
Didn't I already post this team?
Brother Voodoo 79
GCPD Cruiser 68
GCPD Officer 30
GCPD Cycle Piloted 27
Deadman 87 + UB 9
=300
So if you're facing like WL Sinestro Roulette, then you MC WL to pilot the Cycle, then take out Roulette.
what am i missing? I thought a successful mind control hit only gave you one action to assign or give to the mind controled figure whether free or not. So would you not waste it becoming the pilot of the vehicle?
Haves and Wants Reply With Quote
kthomas609
View Public Profile
Find More Posts by kthomas609
Old 03/07/2013, 11:20
    #546
jonidschultz
Member
Offline
Online Status:
Aug 2003
Join Date:
3,744
Posts:
13 (100%)
iTrader:
Quote : Originally Posted by kthomas609 View Post
what am i missing? I thought a successful mind control hit only gave you one action to assign or give to the mind controled figure whether free or not. So would you not waste it becoming the pilot of the vehicle?
I'm not sure. So I'll start from the top. Let's say against the WL Sinestro/Roulette team.

I move the GCPD Cycle adjacent to Sinestro. Brother Voodoo uses his MC to make Sinestro the Pilot of said Cycle. Now I have two options: 1) Ko roulette and win the game. 2) Take my time, replace the Cycles stats with Sinestro to do 1 Unavoidable. Then eject him, run over him with GCPD cruiser for 1 Penetrating, then MC him to make him the Cruiser Pilot, replace stats to do 1 Unavoidable. Then next turn release him, MC him to become Cycle pilot, Replace stats to do 1 unavoidable. Repeat until he is KO'd, finish off Roulette.
Quote : Originally Posted by Japete61 View Post
Thanks, I will defiantly download it and read up on the subject.
I don't usually check back into a Team Help thread, so if I offered assistance and you have more questions or need more help feel free to PM me.
Haves and Wants eBay Reply With Quote
jonidschultz
View Public Profile
Find More Posts by jonidschultz
Old 03/07/2013, 11:26
    #547
jtallday
all up in it
jtallday's Avatar
Offline
Online Status:
Mar 2012
Join Date:
949
Posts:
2 (100%)
iTrader:
Quote : Originally Posted by kthomas609 View Post
what am i missing? I thought a successful mind control hit only gave you one action to assign or give to the mind controled figure whether free or not. So would you not waste it becoming the pilot of the vehicle?
it is currently under review but as it stands you don't exit the vehicle when mc wears off.
call me old bob
bush smiters unite
stuff b gettin moldy in the cave
Quote : Originally Posted by dairoka View Post
Your effects may varry.
Haves and Wants Reply With Quote
jtallday
View Public Profile
Find More Posts by jtallday
Old 03/07/2013, 11:37
    #548
jonidschultz
Member
Offline
Online Status:
Aug 2003
Join Date:
3,744
Posts:
13 (100%)
iTrader:
Quote : Originally Posted by jtallday View Post
it is currently under review but as it stands you don't exit the vehicle when mc wears off.
No. It isn't under review, as in that MIGHT be what happens. That IS what happens. They are undecided if this was intended and whether it might receive errata. It is absolutely 100% legal right now.
Quote : Originally Posted by Japete61 View Post
Thanks, I will defiantly download it and read up on the subject.
I don't usually check back into a Team Help thread, so if I offered assistance and you have more questions or need more help feel free to PM me.
Haves and Wants eBay Reply With Quote
jonidschultz
View Public Profile
Find More Posts by jonidschultz
Old 03/07/2013, 12:57
    #549
ThePrinted6
More 6 damages nowadays.
ThePrinted6's Avatar
Online
Online Status:
Oct 2007
Join Date:
2,752
Posts:
27 (100%)
iTrader:
Quote : Originally Posted by jonidschultz View Post
I'm not sure. So I'll start from the top. Let's say against the WL Sinestro/Roulette team.

I move the GCPD Cycle adjacent to Sinestro. Brother Voodoo uses his MC to make Sinestro the Pilot of said Cycle. Now I have two options: 1) Ko roulette and win the game. 2) Take my time, replace the Cycles stats with Sinestro to do 1 Unavoidable. Then eject him, run over him with GCPD cruiser for 1 Penetrating, then MC him to make him the Cruiser Pilot, replace stats to do 1 Unavoidable. Then next turn release him, MC him to become Cycle pilot, Replace stats to do 1 unavoidable. Repeat until he is KO'd, finish off Roulette.
To run him over between swaps you'd need a GCPD pilot, and wouldn't the pilot swap stop the cruiser from being given actions that turn?

Edit: or not. Didn't look at the sequence closely enough.
Haves and Wants Reply With Quote
ThePrinted6
View Public Profile
Find More Posts by ThePrinted6
Old 03/07/2013, 14:09
    #550
chopchop777
Member
chopchop777's Avatar
Online
Online Status:
Jul 2003
Join Date:
468
Posts:
0 (0%)
iTrader:
Canada (CA)
Quote : Originally Posted by jonidschultz View Post
I was referring to the No Resource teams, and how a First Strike team could NOT just get to Lt. Gordon.

And I really think with No resources it's like this
BV/Cruiser team
BV Teams- Single Cruiser Teams
Double Cruiser Teams
and then waaaaaay down is everything else.

I think 300 modern With Resources is
I have no friggin' clue.
Quote : Originally Posted by TH0MAS5 View Post
TK, RS sharpshooter
Quote : Originally Posted by jonidschultz View Post
I can counter with 19pt GCPD Cycle and put up Barrier. See how that works? And it's pointless. It's why I hate arguing without ACTUAL team builds. Show me a team without a Resource that can beat Double Cruiser. Put it on paper. Although honestly I think the debate is mostly dead as the consensus here is without Resources there is little diversity. AND, we cna just wait and see the Clix-a-thon build lists.
So taking the caveat of beating a double Cruiser team (and I am using the one you listed on the first post of your Team Archetype thread) and what THOMAS5 has in mind, I came up with this.

Hawkeye w/Thunderbolts ATA 106
Bruce Wayne (TK/perplex one) 50
Enchantress 50
Scarlet Witch 50
Madame Web 24
Astral Strange 13
Bat Signal 2

295 total.

I'm sure the strategy is fairly obvious and playing it is simple. Anyone can figure it out.

On a plain gridded map, it has a 93% win chance. But this is unlikely to happen since Cruiser will get map choice 97% of the time.
On a map favorable to cruisers,it still has a 77% win chance taking into acount 5 different scenarios and targets for Cruisers and Hawkeye as well as averaging over three different favorable maps.

Against Brother Voodoo and a Cruiser, the numbers differ but are inaccurate since favorable maps choices were not given specific to the team with Deadman. I can only comment on a plain gridded map with hindering. My math gets me a 87% win. With a favorable map choice for Voodoo, this shoul go down by about 15%.

Consider it and tell me what you think. I know THOMAS5 and his team building far exceeds mine in the cheese factor. His team probably would be better than mine.
"A shoe?!!?? Who throws a frickin' shoe?"
Haves and Wants Reply With Quote
chopchop777
View Public Profile
Find More Posts by chopchop777
Old 03/07/2013, 14:15
    #551
pg3wg
Member
pg3wg's Avatar

Offline
Online Status:
Dec 2004
Join Date:
2,453
Posts:
156 (100%)
iTrader:
Could you explain your math a little?

Quote : Originally Posted by chopchop777 View Post
So taking the caveat of beating a double Cruiser team (and I am using the one you listed on the first post of your Team Archetype thread) and what THOMAS5 has in mind, I came up with this.

Hawkeye w/Thunderbolts ATA 106
Bruce Wayne (TK/perplex one) 50
Enchantress 50
Scarlet Witch 50
Madame Web 24
Astral Strange 13
Bat Signal 2

295 total.

I'm sure the strategy is fairly obvious and playing it is simple. Anyone can figure it out.

On a plain gridded map, it has a 93% win chance. But this is unlikely to happen since Cruiser will get map choice 97% of the time.
On a map favorable to cruisers,it still has a 77% win chance taking into acount 5 different scenarios and targets for Cruisers and Hawkeye as well as averaging over three different favorable maps.

Against Brother Voodoo and a Cruiser, the numbers differ but are inaccurate since favorable maps choices were not given specific to the team with Deadman. I can only comment on a plain gridded map with hindering. My math gets me a 87% win. With a favorable map choice for Voodoo, this shoul go down by about 15%.

Consider it and tell me what you think. I know THOMAS5 and his team building far exceeds mine in the cheese factor. His team probably would be better than mine.
http://www.hcrealms.com/forum/showthread.php?t=388532

DICE!!!
Mysterio, Magneto, Wolverine, Fantomex, Nightcrawler, Kid Omega, Zuvembie, Deadpool, Zombie Spider-man, Deathstroke, and Shuma Gorath engraved d6 dice. All images on the 6
http://www.hcrealms.com/forum/showthread.php?t=438210
Haves and Wants Reply With Quote
pg3wg
View Public Profile
Find More Posts by pg3wg
Old 03/07/2013, 16:59
    #552
jonidschultz
Member
Offline
Online Status:
Aug 2003
Join Date:
3,744
Posts:
13 (100%)
iTrader:
Quote : Originally Posted by chopchop777 View Post
So taking the caveat of beating a double Cruiser team (and I am using the one you listed on the first post of your Team Archetype thread) and what THOMAS5 has in mind, I came up with this.

Hawkeye w/Thunderbolts ATA 106
Bruce Wayne (TK/perplex one) 50
Enchantress 50
Scarlet Witch 50
Madame Web 24
Astral Strange 13
Bat Signal 2

295 total.

I'm sure the strategy is fairly obvious and playing it is simple. Anyone can figure it out.
Yup, I give this virtually no chance to beat a Cruiser team. Cruiser team gets Map Choice. So Shadowlands is the most likely, maybe Prison or Space Map. Your range is cut down a LOT. That alone will stop your shot on Gordon, but in the off chance it won't Gordon moves the Cars, THEN he pilots one. That removes your shot on him. Then your team is based, you have gotten maybe 1 hit on a Cruiser. They will then reposition your team to stop the Perplex and Perplex down Hawkeyes Damage to 1/2. Then it should be over fairly quick.
Quote : Originally Posted by Japete61 View Post
Thanks, I will defiantly download it and read up on the subject.
I don't usually check back into a Team Help thread, so if I offered assistance and you have more questions or need more help feel free to PM me.
Haves and Wants eBay Reply With Quote
jonidschultz
View Public Profile
Find More Posts by jonidschultz
Old 03/07/2013, 18:29
    #553
TIITF
Member
Offline
Online Status:
Dec 2012
Join Date:
209
Posts:
0 (0%)
iTrader:
Quote : Originally Posted by jonidschultz View Post
No. It isn't under review, as in that MIGHT be what happens. That IS what happens. They are undecided if this was intended and whether it might receive errata. It is absolutely 100% legal right now.
If the bolded is true than how will they decide whether to errata or not?

They will review it. So why in such a hurry to say "No"?

Nothing wrong with what he said. Did somebody pee pee in ur Cheerio's this morning?
Haves and Wants Reply With Quote
TIITF
View Public Profile
Find More Posts by TIITF
Old 03/07/2013, 18:42
    #554
jtallday
all up in it
jtallday's Avatar
Offline
Online Status:
Mar 2012
Join Date:
949
Posts:
2 (100%)
iTrader:
Quote : Originally Posted by jonidschultz View Post
No. It isn't under review, as in that MIGHT be what happens. That IS what happens. They are undecided if this was intended and whether it might receive errata. It is absolutely 100% legal right now.
i guess mr. language is getting stretched a little too thin.
call me old bob
bush smiters unite
stuff b gettin moldy in the cave
Quote : Originally Posted by dairoka View Post
Your effects may varry.
Haves and Wants Reply With Quote
jtallday
View Public Profile
Find More Posts by jtallday
Old 03/07/2013, 19:56
    #555
chopchop777
Member
chopchop777's Avatar
Online
Online Status:
Jul 2003
Join Date:
468
Posts:
0 (0%)
iTrader:
Canada (CA)
Quote : Originally Posted by jonidschultz View Post
Yup, I give this virtually no chance to beat a Cruiser team. Cruiser team gets Map Choice. So Shadowlands is the most likely, maybe Prison or Space Map. Your range is cut down a LOT. That alone will stop your shot on Gordon, but in the off chance it won't Gordon moves the Cars, THEN he pilots one. That removes your shot on him. Then your team is based, you have gotten maybe 1 hit on a Cruiser. They will then reposition your team to stop the Perplex and Perplex down Hawkeyes Damage to 1/2. Then it should be over fairly quick.
I like your take on it and the maps you have chosen. Shadowlands is definitely a surprise. I didn't think it favors you that much but I'm sure that's part of your strategy. I like it and would definitely like to try playing it out. Skype and internet isn't feasible for you. If only you had a proxy to play for you over skype.

Personally, I wouldn't try overly hard to take out Gordon but if he was in my sights I would. The team has the ability to and definitely fulfills what THOMAS5 needed as part of the team. I'm just a numbers guy and strategy is not my strongest area in Heroclix.
"A shoe?!!?? Who throws a frickin' shoe?"
Haves and Wants Reply With Quote
chopchop777
View Public Profile
Find More Posts by chopchop777
Reply
Page 37 of 47 « First < 2733343536 37 38394041 > Last »

Bookmarks
  • Digg
  • del.icio.us
  • StumbleUpon
  • Google
  • Facebook
  • Furl
  • Technorati
  • Yahoo!

Tags
kickass, metagame, thread

« Previous Thread | Next Thread »
Thread Tools
Show Printable Version Show Printable Version
Email this Page Email this Page

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is Off
HTML code is Off
Forum Jump

ClixCast
Archive | iTunes
Powered by vBadvanced CMPS v3.0.1
All times are GMT -4. The time now is 01:46.
Contact Us - HCRealms: The Premier HeroClix Gaming Community - Archive - Privacy Statement - Terms of Service - Top
Copyright ©2000 - 2011, RealmWorx, LLC - All Rights Reserved.
Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.7.0
Copyright ©2000 - 2013, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.