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the infinity gauntlet is a broken piece of trash, for those who need "training wheels/crutches" to play on. that has no place in competetive play. it breaks characters, turning them into something they arent suppossed to be. Isn't this why the feats are phased out of the modern age? Add to that the extreme lack of diversity amongst the fielded squads. So lame. If you want me to recognize you as a champion, beat me strait up, best of 5, no special objects, feats, or any of that other weak-az cheese.
Go troll elsewhere. Kids these days... :grumble:
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This falls under the category of, as I often say: "please don't be on my side".
Exactly why I'm sitting this fight out. I agree with the position of the guy arguing with you, but not at all with him!
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yes I have, and I have won a serious tournament without the use of objects or artifacts. I didn't even win just barely...I dominated with my team and did not use any feats,any ATAs,or any special objects. If you can't win a tournament with the standard powers on a figures dial, but rather have to lean on a ultra powerful extra accessory to make your team win, you are not skilled. The people who argue for the use of the gauntlet I believe cannot build a strong team without it and need to lean on the god-like power it gives their otherwise mediocre figures. Morgan Le Fey? Okay piece, but obviously Mega enchanced with the glove on. Come on, how can you guys say using that gauntlet every team every game is a good thing? Its crap and needs to be banned from important big tournaments. Alex would have never made it to the finals without using it and you all know it. Yes, he abused it as many other people are doing..because NECA was dumb enough to make it cheap and powerful and now its corrupting the game at the basic level. Gone are the days of good sportsmanship and creative winnng teams that don't abuse the gauntlet....and when it is retired I am sure some other powerful cheese object will be introduced to make those lazy players get to just enhance a mediocre piece and point,shoot, and kill. So easy and so lame.
This is so many kinds of wrong, dumb, and illogical. The nonsensical outweighs the sensible, to the point that this post is not even worth picking apart.
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The amount of people attempting to sound really smart in this thread, and failing horribly, is astounding.
I should copy and paste the above into every thread on this site.
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And the tally of those who cannot or will not read continues to rise.
yes I have, and I have won a serious tournament without the use of objects or artifacts. I didn't even win just barely...I dominated with my team and did not use any feats,any ATAs,or any special objects. If you can't win a tournament with the standard powers on a figures dial, but rather have to lean on a ultra powerful extra accessory to make your team win, you are not skilled. The people who argue for the use of the gauntlet I believe cannot build a strong team without it and need to lean on the god-like power it gives their otherwise mediocre figures. Morgan Le Fey? Okay piece, but obviously Mega enchanced with the glove on. Come on, how can you guys say using that gauntlet every team every game is a good thing? Its crap and needs to be banned from important big tournaments. Alex would have never made it to the finals without using it and you all know it. Yes, he abused it as many other people are doing..because NECA was dumb enough to make it cheap and powerful and now its corrupting the game at the basic level. Gone are the days of good sportsmanship and creative winnng teams that don't abuse the gauntlet....and when it is retired I am sure some other powerful cheese object will be introduced to make those lazy players get to just enhance a mediocre piece and point,shoot, and kill. So easy and so lame.
What "serious tournament" did you win? I was at the GSX Clixathon where Alex played a JSA team and made it to final 2. He almost beat a Professor X scientist team. The one with Floronic Man, SI Spiderman x2, Researcher x2, etc. He did not play the gauntlet. He played a JSA theme team because he loves the JSA. Everyone played the Gauntlet in World's if I remember correctly. It levels the playing field and when both players have it adds another level of strategy. I personally wait to attack when my opponent doesn't have certain gems showing or I do have them showing. If both players have the gauntlet then it comes down to skill. I hear people crying about the IG who don't have the skill set to keep up with the gems how many clicks until the bonus and so on. It is a challenge to overcome an IG equipped team when you are without one. Why give yourself a handicap in an important event like World's?
I have also watched games where someone uses the IG because they think it is so powerful and just keep using HSS. They usually lose to the smarter player who thinks outside the box and force blasts them off the cliff. You have access to all powers but choosing the right one isn't as easy as point and click. Both players have access to the same figures and resources, it takes a little skill, a little ingenuity, and a little luck.
Exactly why I'm sitting this fight out. I agree with the position of the guy arguing with you, but not at all with him!
This is so many kinds of wrong, dumb, and illogical. The nonsensical outweighs the sensible, to the point that this post is not even worth picking apart.
I agree. There be trolls in this here thread.
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What "serious tournament" did you win? I was at the GSX Clixathon where Alex played a JSA team and made it to final 2. He almost beat a Professor X scientist team. The one with Floronic Man, SI Spiderman x2, Researcher x2, etc. He did not play the gauntlet. He played a JSA theme team because he loves the JSA. Everyone played the Gauntlet in World's if I remember correctly. It levels the playing field and when both players have it adds another level of strategy. I personally wait to attack when my opponent doesn't have certain gems showing or I do have them showing. If both players have the gauntlet then it comes down to skill. I hear people crying about the IG who don't have the skill set to keep up with the gems how many clicks until the bonus and so on. It is a challenge to overcome an IG equipped team when you are without one. Why give yourself a handicap in an important event like World's?
I have also watched games where someone uses the IG because they think it is so powerful and just keep using HSS. They usually lose to the smarter player who thinks outside the box and force blasts them off the cliff. You have access to all powers but choosing the right one isn't as easy as point and click. Both players have access to the same figures and resources, it takes a little skill, a little ingenuity, and a little luck.
True story. I agree totally with this assessment. Trolls please take the exit ramp toward Hatersville. I hear there's a GripeCon tournament where everyone plays without the newest innovations to the game and castigates everyone who does. That should be a nice fit.
some of you guys should be ashamed...alex won worlds. remarkable player. give the guy a break..he played to win and yes he did win. quit trying to take that from him
Again if it's not the Gauntlet it would be something else,Gamma Bomb,Sentoid,Superman. Last year people played Metron + Nightcrawler while others played Kid Zoom with Metron to counter Nightcrawler obviously.
My point stands get rid of Guantlet and you would see a less varied team list in the top 16. People who complain don't understand the game at its most basic level. Doesn't mean they can't have fun but no amount of Bans will help them.
If you doubt what I'm saying count how many teams had Scarlet Witch and Gauntlet.
Congrats to the new world Champ and good job on your whole build.
Complete agreement with the above. I am sure by now the pro/anti-gauntlet arguement has been made multiple times over. However, I feel I should put in my 2 cents (for what its worth).
It seems the gauntlet has allowed for more variation in competitive team builds than in previous years. Its nice to see teams competing at the highest levels without being mirror images of each other (Gem of Cyttorak, Metron and insert Thing/Nightcrawler/Kid Zoom) with the winner being the player who has the luckiest rolls.
Yes, some figures did pop up on almost every team this year (ie. Scarlet Witch) but even if everyone used her and the guantlet, its only a little over a third of the entire build which allows for more choices for figures for the rest of the team. Also, if everyone plays the gauntlet then all should be more or less equal in that regard (yes one player may land on a better click of the gauntlet but over the course of the game it probably balances out). Just think, if there was no gauntlet, the earlier predictions of a mostly Ventry top 16 would probably had come true, and how much fun would it have been to watch those matches?
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the infinity gauntlet is a broken piece of trash, for those who need "training wheels/crutches" to play on. that has no place in competetive play. it breaks characters, turning them into something they arent suppossed to be. Isn't this why the feats are phased out of the modern age? Add to that the extreme lack of diversity amongst the fielded squads. So lame. If you want me to recognize you as a champion, beat me strait up, best of 5, no special objects, feats, or any of that other weak-az cheese.
Obviously you need a quote "Live in the Past, and all you become is a grumpy old person" so noted. Feats were phased out yes and SP's were moved in, a much more unique ability for the individual character.
Learn to play the game as intended and maybe you will be able to compete with World Champion caliber players. And honestly your lack of growing with the game tells me I could probably beat you all 5 matches so don't challenge any World Champs anytime soon..
Congrats Alex on a great win and I was glad I was there to see the full match between you and George.