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Clix vs. Comix TOC! 86-95pts. Round 1 Match 1: THE KEY VS. GREEN LANTERN
New TOC, new fighters, and a new avatar!
I was playing Heroclix one day. While building my team, I looked at my selection for 103pts characters and realized that U HT Batman and R IC Hulk both cost the same. This got me thinking. Just because they are Heroclix equals doesn’t translate back to comics. I think most of us would agree that Hulk could beat Batman in a fight.
That is the idea for this tournament. Every entry will be close to the same amount of points Heroclix wise, but this will be their comic forms fighting!
Rules:
This will be a standard single elimination tournament with 32 combatants. There will be 2 to a fight. They get no knowledge of each other (unless they have fought in the past). The only thing they get is the Heroclix figure of there enemies, and a PAC so they know what the opponent looks like and a bit about what they can do (this can be misleading however, like if they face Electro and think he will try to poison them). They will have 5 minutes to prepare. This is a fight to the death or KO or a 1 minute complete incapacitate, whichever happens first, and they must fight (no waiting for the opponent to die of starvation or for the terrain to dispose of them). They have with them what they normally carry and what there fig has if it is different. (Like how Bullseye doesn’t carry a gun, but he has one on the fig). If the fig that is being used is the rookie, you do NOT have to treat the fighter like that. (unless the characters powers change dramatically ie: Rouge)
When you vote, please try to justify your answer. You don’t have to write an essay, just a short explanation will do.
I would like to thank Whoclix for the bios, ‘cause I could never write ones like that myself.
Terrain
There are 10 terrains that are all 5 miles in diameter. They will be chosen randomly.
With out further delay…
The Key
HT, 89
vs. Green Lantern (Hal)
UN, 93
Terrain: Burning Cityby St-Dumas
There are several 30 story apartment buildings that are on fire, and the combatants are in them! With a few innocent bystanders trapped on some of the floors as well as the foundation of the buildings beginning to give, the fighters might want to be careful not to damage the terrain. (Think Great Chicago Fire)
THE KEY
Originally a chemist with Intergang, the man who would be known as the Key developed mind expanding "psycho-chemicals" that activates his ten senses and helped him plan crimes mere humans could never hope to understand. Armed with these plans and a "key blaster", the Key had several failed run-ins with the JLA. He returned even stronger when he almost destroyed the team by trapping them in a fantasy realm of their own creation. They would have stayed there if not for the intervention of Green Arrow. He eventually returned to fight the Batman.
GREEN LANTERN (Hal Jordan)
When dying alien Abin Sur passed his power ring onto test pilot Hal Jordan, he became the new Green Lantern of sector 2814. The amazing power ring, while unable to effect anything yellow, could enable Hal to fly into space and create any emerald construct he could imagine. He became the greatest of the Green Lanterns and a founding member of the JLA; becoming best friends with Green Arrow and the Flash. He bravely defended Earth for years against countless alien invasions and intergalactic villains like Sinestro, Star Sapphire and Dr. Polaris. However, when Mongul and the Cyborg destroyed his hometown of Coast City, Hal unhinged and attempted to change the time stream itself to bring back its seven million victims. During his rampage, he single-handedly destroyed the Corps and absorbed the power of the great battery of Oa, the source of the Green Lantern's power, becoming Parallax. Green Arrow and the new Green Lantern, Kyle Rayner finally stopped him. During "Final Night", Hal re-emerged one last time, giving his life to re-ignite the sun and dying as he had once lived.... a true hero.
I'm going to have to go back an reread the issues where the Key fought the JLA. I don't remember if he had to do anything specifically to get through their defenses before he trapped them in his fantasy world. If not, he stands a good chance of doing well here.
Hal definately has the potential to take out the Key and his magic gun, but he's going to be a bit distracted by the people in the buildings. This shall go under consideration until further notice.
Abstaining for now.
"There is good and there is evil, and evil must be punished. Even in the face of Armageddon I shall not compromise in this."
-Rorschach, Watchmen
Well, I think John was one of the people that the Key had in fanasy world, so we know it can work on Lanterns, but Hal is quite a lot better then John. I havn't actually read that story though, so how did the Key manage to trap John. Did he need a lot of prep or anything that he wont have here?
The Key not only fought the JLA with John GL in it, but one with Kyle GL in it as well, and did very well against them as well. (unfortunately I cant remember the details to that battle) Add to that that Hal WILL do whatever he can to locate and save all of these people in this terrain (which heavily favors the villains as all of the heroes will go out of their way to rescue the near dead victims), and Im currently leaning a bit more to The Key here personally. Still need a bit more details on the Keys several battles with the JLA (as most of my comic collection is back in New York )
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I vote the Key. As mentioned by other, the terrain will keep Hal pretty pre-occupied. Now if Hal was fighting a brawler, then he could keep his advesary at bay with his constructs.
But they Key will be able to use this to his advantage, and take Hal's weakness for being a hero out for a spin.
Key for this win this time. Bad draw for terrain on Hal's part.
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Kepp in mind that Hal knows why he's here, and his primary goal will be to fight. He also probably knows of the Key, and won't let his guard down. After all, he's no help to anyone dead.
Kepp in mind that Hal knows why he's here, and his primary goal will be to fight. He also probably knows of the Key, and won't let his guard down. After all, he's no help to anyone dead.
But he's too much of a true blue hero. He's there to fight sure, but he's not going to let anyone die to win a fight. John Stewart might, but not Hal
Justice League Of America (Current Era)
In the Heroclix Fantasy League Season 5
It's amazing how many super villains have advanced degrees. Graduates schools should do a better job of screening these people out. - Sheldon
You may be right, and that may be his downfall, but I see Hal as too good of a multi-tasker. I think he could probably do both. But I'm not going to vote untill someone can give me a little more detail on The Key's battles with the JLA
Kepp in mind that Hal knows why he's here, and his primary goal will be to fight. He also probably knows of the Key, and won't let his guard down. After all, he's no help to anyone dead.
I agree with TMNT. Any terrain that features innocent bystanders in deadly danger is going to be a disadvantage to any hero characters fighting within IF they are fighting a villain (if both are heroes I can see them saving everyone here, then fighting one another) The Key wont give a carp about anyone here dying, but Hal WILL, and while hes locating and saving all of these people (who will definately die if he doesnt) the Key will be focusing on him.
Again, not saying right now I vote for The Key, but since he does have a good deal of experience dealing with the JLA each with its own different GL, and Hal has to worry about saving everyone from this terrain, I am leaning more towards the Key than not here.
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You may be right, and that may be his downfall, but I see Hal as too good of a multi-tasker. I think he could probably do both. But I'm not going to vote untill someone can give me a little more detail on The Key's battles with the JLA
Keep in mind though this isnt just a single burning building, its a burning CITY, with several buildings all over the place that Hal must locate, find the people trapped inside, and save. All the while Hals attention is seperated on several factors, the Key is focusing just on one thing, Kill Hal Jordan. This arena is a pretty big disadvantage to any hero fighting a villain within, and since the Key has battled several Top Notch versions of the JLA with GLs, Id say Hal is in some real trouble here.
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What exactly will the Key do to take out GL? Hal probably will use a shield to protect himself, so the gun won't do much. That leaves his mind tricks and I don't know how he would use them.
"There is good and there is evil, and evil must be punished. Even in the face of Armageddon I shall not compromise in this."
-Rorschach, Watchmen
What exactly will the Key do to take out GL? Hal probably will use a shield to protect himself, so the gun won't do much. That leaves his mind tricks and I don't know how he would use them.
In the most recent JLA issues (the post JLA watch tower being destoryed), The Key had strait up mind controll. Are we counting that aspect of his powers?
Justice League Of America (Current Era)
In the Heroclix Fantasy League Season 5
It's amazing how many super villains have advanced degrees. Graduates schools should do a better job of screening these people out. - Sheldon