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Old 03/08/2007, 14:49
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Can a Sentinel be healed?
I doubt it, but I just wanted to check on the rules. Because paying for an 150 point sentinel and a few supporters would be amazingly effective.
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Old 03/08/2007, 14:56
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Right in the Sentinel (old and new) rules it states that it ignores other character's Support. You can use Nanobots, and that's the only way.
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Advanced Sentinel rule book says:

It is not affected by Exploit Weakness, Force Blast, Incapacitate, Mind Control, Plasticity, Poison, Psychic Blast, Shape Change, Steal Energy, Support, or any team ability or effect that reproduces those powers.
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Old 03/08/2007, 15:00
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And remember that even if you do use Nanobots, you can't click past your starting click. So no gobbling your way from 150 to 300 points...
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Right in the Sentinel (old and new) rules it states that it ignores other character's Support. You can use Nanobots, and that's the only way.
Not true, with Mercinary, you can now have him an Xman/Titans/Suicide Squad/Fantastic Four (Xmen are no longer AE to Sentinels according to the currently written rules, they just score double/triple points. There's also Avengers Tbolted to Xmen could be done too.)
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Hmm. How 'bout Mercenary to Suicide Squad on Mr. Sentinel? Ooch.
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Hmm. How 'bout Mercenary to Suicide Squad on Mr. Sentinel? Ooch.

You're looking at a pretty major investment there. About 330 points just for that one trick (150 for Sentinel + 25 for Mercenary + at least 151 for the character to borrow SS TA from). I don't think any of the Suicide Squad are that expensive, so that leaves you T-bolting a big expensive Avenger like Thor to get the TA.

Might be worth it, depending on the build, but I doubt it will see much play
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Not true, with Mercinary, you can now have him an Xman/Titans/Suicide Squad/Fantastic Four (Xmen are no longer AE to Sentinels according to the currently written rules, they just score double/triple points. There's also Avengers Tbolted to Xmen could be done too.)

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You are so getting rep for that little bit of nastiness!
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FF, there are 11 pieces over 100 points. None over 150
SS, Blockbuster and Chemo over 100. None over 150
Titans has Superboy at 127 and the new Wonder Girl at 116
Xmen have 14 0ver 100, and 4 over 150 (Juggernaut and the 3 levels of JEan Gray Phoenix)
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You're looking at a pretty major investment there. About 330 points just for that one trick (150 for Sentinel + 25 for Mercenary + at least 151 for the character to borrow SS TA from). I don't think any of the Suicide Squad are that expensive, so that leaves you T-bolting a big expensive Avenger like Thor to get the TA.

Might be worth it, depending on the build, but I doubt it will see much play

Yeah, I figured if anyone was going to try something like this, it'd be with the 100 pt. Sentinel and a Suicide Squad heavy hitter with pogs, support and little else, relying mainly on cheap tie-up pieces to keep the guns off of the tent-pole and the Sentinel and just pushing the Sentinel like mad to capture.

Tough sell, but definitely something I'd try...but then again, I'm zany like that.

EDIT: Speaking of this, could you Mercenary to a Thunderbolted TA? This would be pretty killer with Exp. Warmachine, with a slew of Mockingbirds and pogs
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I am fairly sure that you cannot mercenary to someone's Thunderbolts...Now if there was already a figure with the natural TA on the build total...then possibly you could use the Thunderbolted figure to stand in for the higher point teammate?? I think that would work

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then possibly you could use the Thunderbolted figure to stand in for the higher point teammate??

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NOPE

just looked it up cannot use Thunderbolts in any way...The feat GRANTS the team ability and you cannot use anyone that has a team ability granted by a feat


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but you could do this:
Thunderbolt the LE Antman to Defenders.
Take the IC Defenders Hulk or whomever over 100
Mercenary the Rookie Sentinel to Defenders

keep them all together and now you have a 20 DV Sentinel. Antman can share DV with Hulk and Hulk will work with Merc and the Sentinel in a chain.

If they try to break the chain by beating on the Hulk...well he is 20 DV and will just get madder and tougher as you go....



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NOPE

just looked it up cannot use Thunderbolts in any way...The feat GRANTS the team ability and you cannot use anyone that has a team ability granted by a feat


just an FYI


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Finally, I get to see the look of utter confusion on my opponent's faces when I tell them my Sentinel is a Masters of Evil Mercenary!!!

.... heh. The sad thing is... I'd be willing to do that, just to see what reactions I'd get...
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