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Old 12/10/2009, 14:49
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Dark Xmen ideas
I've had a sudden yen to build a Dark Xmen team (although I know little about them). Feel free to tear it apart or suggest your own.

Dark Xmen complete roster from wiki -
Emma Frost, Namor, Mimic, Dark Beast, Nate Grey, Cloak, Dagger, Mystique (playing Xavier), Daken (Wolverine) and Weapon Omega (Rogue). As with all the Dark teams, Norman Osborne is tangential.

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Namor w/ Unstoppable & Endurance 160
Mimic w/ Endurance 153
Cloak & Dagger w/ Sidestep 114
Dark Beast w/ Lunge 73

This seems fun. It's certainly mobile and aggressive, with both bruisers pushing as hard as the situation demands, a stealthy Psychic Blast sniper and a mini Charge/BCF/Outwit combo. But when it gets into trouble (and it will with three team members relying heavily on average defense numbers and Super Senses), it has a good chance of crumbling fast.
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Old 12/10/2009, 14:54
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Wiki is wrong on a few. Nate Grey isn't on the team- he's their opponent in the current mini. Weapon Omega isn't Rogue at all... he's vindicator I believe.

Oh, and you're using the wrong Mimic. You've got MU Mimic there, he's from Exiles. The MM Unique Mimic is the 616 version. Finally, I usually don't do replacements, but the 94 pt. sinister Wolverine works really well for Daken, though he isn't perfect (Daken has pheromone powers that aren't represented in that clix).
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Gaurdian is Michael Pointer. He was brought in during the Omega Flight mini. He killed the original Alpha Flight as the Collective. He is not James Hudson, the original Gaurdian. Vindicator was James Hudson's wife who took over when he was dead (the first time) in the '80s.
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150 SI045 Namor
107 MU053 Emma Frost
148 MU021 Mimic
94 SN090 Wolverine
109 SI039 Cloak and Dagger
125 MU104 Charles Xavier
69 MU061 Dark Beast
99 SV206 James MacDonald Hudson
901

Leaves you 100 points for Feats, though not a "Theme" team.. most judges should allow it.. there are of course some switches.. Exiles Mimic instead of the U.. Hudson instead of Pointer, cause there isn't one made, Charles for Mystique..

Though if you going for the CURRENT line up.. you'd have..



148 MU021 Mimic
69 MU061 Dark Beast
99 SV206 James MacDonald Hudson
90 MU037 Jean Grey
406

Feat to flavor.. Daken isn't a full part of the team.. but you could toss the sinister Wolverine on there to fill out points..
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Though if you going for the CURRENT line up.. you'd have..



148 MU021 Mimic
69 MU061 Dark Beast
99 SV206 James MacDonald Hudson
90 MU037 Jean Grey
406
Does Jean represent somebody or did they bring her back again? I stopped paying attention after Utopia X endend.
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Mystique changed to her after Xavier popped back up with the X-Men..

But "Hope" is Jean.. just look at the cover of the next issue of Cable (#21) and tell me she isn't.. http://marvel.com/images/510605.CABL...ale.2009-12-16
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Interesting points all around. Thank you.

I had no clue Daken had pheromone powers. Are they strong enough to be treated as Mind Control, Incapacitate or Shape Change?

Even though I read Omega Flight, I still don't understand Pointer well. Wiki says he absorbs powers, but you say he isn't a rogue analog... so does he essentially just channel them into classic flying blaster tricks, perhaps supplemented by the suit?

Since I had forgotten entirely about the original Mimic and had the lineup wrong anyway, how about this for a 300 pt version?

SN Wolverine 94
MU Dark Beast 69
XP Raven Darkholme 39
MM Mimic 87
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Daken could DEFFINATELY be given Incap.. and an arguement could even be made for Mind Control. He has made H.A.M.M.E.R. agents betray Osborn..

Pointer, from what I understand is kind of a combination of Rogue and the classic flying blaster type. He CAN absorb the powers of Mutants, as he' been shown to use claws and other stuff.. but mostly he just absorbs POWER from mutants. the more powerful the mutant, the more power he absorbs, making his own blasts more powerful..

at 300 points.. the Wolverine and Dark Beast clix are murder on wheels.. combined with Ravens per plex.. oof.
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I played the Dark X-Men at 800 points with the following lineup:

Dark Beast w/ Alias
Mimic (MM) w/ Spotter
Namor (SI) w/ Submerged
U Mystique (AW) w/ Running Start
Emma Frost (M&M) w/ Mental Shields
Cloak & Dagger duo w/ Running Start
U Wolverine (Sin) (representing Daken) w/ Automatic Regen
R Weapon Alpha (representing Weapon Omega) w/ Contingency Plan & Alpha Flight ATA

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Ok here is a better explanation of Omega
First the collective is the power of every mutant who was depowered in HOM. Second he does not absorb powers like Rogue but rather needs a machine to drain
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But in recent issues he has also absorbed powers just by being around people. The Machine was a means to "control" it. Weapon Omega told him it was safe.. Osborn said it was being used to "humanely" depower dangerous mutants.

But in Dark X-Men #1 he absorbed some of Nate Greys power without a machine..
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yeah cool idea ...What was that about Daken having pheromone powers (is that why incap was suggested?)
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Yeah.. Daken can control his pheremones and influence peoples emotions and actions. So, deffinately an Incap potential..
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