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Old 08/29/2011, 08:06
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TV TOC: SHW Division. R1M2: SUPERMAN VS. REPLICARTER
So without further adieu, allow me to present your Next fight in the TV Tournament Of Champions, Super Heavyweight Division:

SUPERMAN (Lois & Clark: The New Adventures of Superman)


VS.


REPLICARTER (Stargate SG-1)


As always, same rules apply, no time to prepare, POOFed from where ever they were, with only what they routinely carry on them AND/OR routinely used in their shows, to fight in a Large area til one stands and one falls. YOU decide Who.

Randomly Chosen Area:

Hogwarts School of Witchcraft and Wizardry - A magnificent castle located in Northern England, this vast magical building, full of towers, dungeons and secret passageways is only part of this terrain. The grounds around the school consist of such features as a lake, the Forbidden Forrest and a Quidditch Pitch. The magical enchantments that usually stop certain spells from being used (as well as those that shut down technology) have all been removed so that no characters will be hindered by this terrain. Likewise, the very specific kind of Magic that exists in the Potter-verse will not be accessible to non-Potter characters.

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Superman, easily. The replicators are machines, and can be damaged/destroyed by normal gun fire. What makes them really capable is the ability to self multiply. Super-speed plus heat vision, pretty solid win for the man of steel.
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Right now I'm instinctively leaning towards Superman unless RepliCarter has some weapon or power that'll help her against him.
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Quote : Originally Posted by Maniac_nmt View Post
Superman, easily. The replicators are machines, and can be damaged/destroyed by normal gun fire. What makes them really capable is the ability to self multiply. Super-speed plus heat vision, pretty solid win for the man of steel.
Normal replicators, yes. Human form replicators, however, wave off gunfire as nothing more than an annoyance. And both forms may be vulnerable to gunfire, but are far more resistant to attacks that aren't as 'primitive'.

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Right now I'm instinctively leaning towards Superman unless RepliCarter has some weapon or power that'll help her against him.
She may have an ace in the hole if she is in close contact with Superman long enough to stick her hand into his head and do her mind thing. As far as I can tell, any time they did it in the show, they kept the people they were messing with mentally alive for a reason, so I wouldn't consider it out of the question for her to kill Superman via his brain.
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Quote : Originally Posted by Space Jawa View Post
She may have an ace in the hole if she is in close contact with Superman long enough to stick her hand into his head and do her mind thing. As far as I can tell, any time they did it in the show, they kept the people they were messing with mentally alive for a reason, so I wouldn't consider it out of the question for her to kill Superman via his brain.
Thing is, it's one thing for a human-form Replicator to pull that stunt on Humans, but I'm not convinced that they can pull that off on invulnerable beings like Kryptonians.
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I've never seen Stargate, so can someone fill me in on exactly what RepliCarter can do? Besides that mind thing.
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Replicator_(Stargate)

Keep in mind please, that Human Form Replicators lack the "traditional Replicators' vulnerability to firearms."

She isn't just going to approach Supes and say, "Hello - I am an alien bent on universal domination and conquest. Would you like to engage in fisticuffs?"

She is going to bide her time, use deception and guile - which Superman (especially that idiotic "Lois and Clark" Superman) - has no defense against. For crying out loud - he let "Lois" get top billing!

But I digress.

Anyway, if we assume they get to use their "weapons" then we also have to assume that Replicarter gets to use all of the assets at her disposal and if she finds that way into his mind, Super##### is going to be even more brainwashed than that brain dead cretin from that horrible TV show.

Also - this battle is at Hogwarts!!! Supes is vulnerable to magic so his Invulnerability could easily be nerfed!!!

Given that this is the Lois and Clark "I'm whipped and I love it!" Superman, I don't think he has a chance against Replicarter who, if you saw the episode quoted in the Wiki article, has nothing but contempt for weak willed men - like Superman in Lois and Clark.

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Also - this battle is at Hogwarts!!! Supes is vulnerable to magic so his Invulnerability could easily be nerfed!!!
Oh no no no. Read the terrain. I made sure that wasn't possible.
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I don't know much about the following:

REPLICARTER (ANYTHING)

SUPERMAN (Dean Cain Supes vs. Comic Supes.) I'm sure power level he at least beats Welling's version.

I don't think I can vote here for these reasons and it'd just be wrong of me to vote Supes JUST BECAUSE his actor played for my team... Go Bills
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Thing is, it's one thing for a human-form Replicator to pull that stunt on Humans, but I'm not convinced that they can pull that off on invulnerable beings like Kryptonians.
I'm not sure the invulnerability will make a difference. The mind thing never resulted in any physical damage as far as I'm aware. Considering that Replicator is made up of itty bitty nanites, I'm pretty sure she should be able to stick her hand inside Kent's head unless he lacks sweat pores or the like.

As far as what Replicarter can do, she's a human-form replicator.

As their name suggests, their primary purpose is to replicate. If she can get to any metal at Hogwarts before Superman shows up and has time to make even one 'regular' replicator, she could theoretically end up with a small army of the critters (or one very, very large 'regular' replicator) if she has enough time and there's enough metal sitting around the school. Said replicators would then be made up of whatever metal they consumed from Hogwarts.

However, I don't know how much an impact it'll have here. It could potentially give her a means to hold Superman in place long enough to stick her hand in his head if she can't do it otherwise, or, if Superman is vulnerable to acid, it could allow her another means of hurting him that way.

Replicarter herself is made up of nanites, which both allows her to shapeshift and makes it so that you have to destroy most of her outright to beat her. She's not really susceptible to physical damage and can keep going even if she, say, lost what mass she has where her head is or had her arm cut off, and you can't really KO her. The replicators as a whole also have the ability to adapt to things.

Replicater is also based on 'regular' Carter in personality and memories, so it's possible she's at least as smart as 'regular' Carter. And Carter herself was pretty **** smart (the show on more than one occasion brought up how she once blew up a sun in order to wipe out an evil alien overlords fleet). She's also incredibly devious and cunning.

It's highly likely that since she has Carter's memories, she already knows exactly who superman is, even if she doesn't know the exact version. Stargate made regular use of pop culture references. That right there will probably give her a tactical advantage.

Might even give her the ability to impersonate Lois long enough to get the upper hand on Superman till she can be assured she can finish him off no problem.

One thing that could make a big difference is how this version of Superman fights, since that's suppose to be an important factor too. Anyone familiar with the show know what his regular battle tactics were?
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SUPERMAN (Dean Cain Supes vs. Comic Supes.) I'm sure power level he at least beats Welling's version.
I dunno. Welling's version pushed a planet. I think in terms of power level, that's well beyond Cain's version. Cain's is definitely smarter, but that's not much of a feat.

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I'm not sure the invulnerability will make a difference. The mind thing never resulted in any physical damage as far as I'm aware.
No, you're right. I just caught the end of an Atlantis episode where the Pegasus Replicators just did the hand thing and there's no physical marks afterwards.

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Replicater is also based on 'regular' Carter in personality and memories, so it's possible she's at least as smart as 'regular' Carter. And Carter herself was pretty **** smart (the show on more than one occasion brought up how she once blew up a sun in order to wipe out an evil alien overlords fleet). She's also incredibly devious and cunning.

It's highly likely that since she has Carter's memories, she already knows exactly who superman is, even if she doesn't know the exact version. Stargate made regular use of pop culture references. That right there will probably give her a tactical advantage.

Might even give her the ability to impersonate Lois long enough to get the upper hand on Superman till she can be assured she can finish him off no problem.
From what I remember from L&C, Cain's version had all the typical powers Superman had, just not on the power level of the comics (TV budget and all). I don't see Replicator physically harming him unless she can replicate Kryptonite and I'm not sure how she'd do that without knowing the molecular makeup of it.

Impersonating Lois could be plausible. I mean, Clark was fooled by a frog-eating clone for a while. But how does RepliCarter know how what Lois looked like? Carter might have a passing familiarity with the concepts of Superman, but wouldn't know that she'd have to look like Teri Hatcher and so on. She wasn't usually the one making pop culture references.
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