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Old 07/26/2012, 01:32
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They're never gonna make Cena a heel. Not for a long, long time at least. If anything just for the fact that of all the charity work he does. Especially the Make a Wish stuff. He loves doing it and if he turned heel I think it'd put a big dent in that. So of course Punk has to be the heel. And he'll be good at it. I think he's the most versatile, all round guy that WWE has right now.

I've never really got the love for Cena. He's a average in ring in my opinion and I think his personality is kinda played out. Not as over the top as when he first came in, but still. I think ten years is enough of this. If someone could maybe explain it for me?
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Old 07/26/2012, 04:01
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I always wondered something about the charity work argument people bring up for not turning Cena heel. Hogan was a pretty big charity worker with the Make a Wish stuff in the 80's and 90's, if I remember correctly. I wonder if he was doing as much Make a Wish stuff when he turned heel as right before the turn, if there is even a way to look that kind of stuff up.

I know he was getting less and less popular with the regular fans but I always thought he was still big with the kids, at least from what I had seen/heard during the time period (I was pretty young myself and a huge Hogan fan). Just something I always wondered about.
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Old 07/26/2012, 22:16
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I.E. they built him. If they put the same effort and determination in getting a guy over as they did with that guy, and that guy stays healthy and shows some personality, that person will get over.
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Old 07/30/2012, 22:22
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Watching tonight's raw: gotta say the roster is impressive, its starting to look like some of my Wrestling Games with the former RoH stars in there.

Daniel Bryan : currently Face/Heel ? Chris Jericho : currently Face/Heel ?
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They focused more on wrestling, longer matches, I actually thought it was done well. Bryan's stuff was fine for what it was. I will say it ended weak with Punk doing the Stereotypical heel thing.
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Old 07/31/2012, 02:16
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ok, as much as Daniel Bryan typically sucks on the mic.... the scene with the ink blot goat face was the standout of this episode for me.
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Daniel Bryan : currently Face/Heel ? Chris Jericho : currently Face/Heel ?
Bryan: Heel. Though this might have to be reconsidered if he's going to feud with Charlie Sheen.

Jericho: Face. At least for the duration of the feud with Ziggler. Jericho hasn't had many lengthy face runs over the last couple years.

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They focused more on wrestling, longer matches, I actually thought it was done well. Bryan's stuff was fine for what it was. I will say it ended weak with Punk doing the Stereotypical heel thing.
I think the show could have used a few less recaps, but it was all right. Punk's opening promo was good, and I would have been content if they had just ended the show after the attack. But him coming back out to shout at AJ? Yeah, full-blown egocentric heel turn. Kind of disappointing in that respect.
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And what have they done with Brock Lesnar ? I know he debuted by F5'ing Cena, and now he's fighting HHH but what happened in between ?
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And what have they done with Brock Lesnar ? I know he debuted by F5'ing Cena, and now he's fighting HHH but what happened in between ?
Basically he got beat by Cena at the PPV (No way out I believe? ) after pretty much destroying Cena the whole time, but you know Super Cena came through

Then he feuded with WWE over his contract (he wasnt happy with his original one)and so heI started demanding things like using the personal jet and having Raw be renamed to Raw Starring Brock Lesnar or something like that. John Laurentis agreed to the demands, but Triple H came out and stated that Brocks original contract was more then fair. He threatened if they didnt meet his demands he wouldnt show up anymore and basically quit. So HHH basically started calling Brock out for being a quitter and even mentioned UFC pissed off Lesnar. So he and HHH started fighting and he "broke HHH arm with his sig sumbission (name slips my mind)" but he used it on Cena also.

And since then basically HHH has wanted revenge and here we are he wants to "fight" Brock Lesnar at SS. The reason you have been seeing Paul Heyman a lot is due to the fact the Brock's real contract has him limited on appearances, soo to stretch it out they use Heyman to help keep his story going.

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Old 07/31/2012, 21:03
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The reason you have been seeing Paul Heyman a lot is due to the fact the Brock's real contract has him limited on appearances, soo to stretch it out they use Heyman to help keep his story going.
I actually really like Heyman in the Brock Lesnar manager role. I enjoy the way he said/says "The Next Big Thing" and "Bbbrrroooccckkk Llleeesssnnneeerrr".
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Anyone think Kane Undertaker will come around to win tag titles and make them legit again?
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Anyone think Kane Undertaker will come around to win tag titles and make them legit again?
Undertaker's a unicorn now. If you see him, it's a very rare and magical experience.

Anyhoo, Tensai's in trouble for his first tout. Dubya Dubya Eee deleted it, but it migrated to the tubes.

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Anyone think Kane Undertaker will come around to win tag titles and make them legit again?
Nah. That was just a special thing for Raw 1,000. I wouldn't expect to see Taker again until February rolls around.

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Anyhoo, Tensai's in trouble for his first tout. Dubya Dubya Eee deleted it, but it migrated to the tubes.
Between AW's rape joke and Albert's racial humor, I'd say there's gonna be some future endeavoring going down. It's interesting how times have changed, since if these went down during the Attitude Era, this would be completely acceptable.

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What was AW's rape joke?
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