Mods, can you please leave this in GD? If it gets moved to the HCO forum the only people that will see it are those that already play HCO!
With the announcement that some GG is coming to HCO a month before the physical set, how come you aren't on HCO? Now the most common answer is "its too expensive... I'm not paying full price for virtual boosters. But is it really that expensive? I just did a break down of the costs for what's available:
Fantastic Four starter -$1.95 (7 figs)
Blackest Night starter - $1.95 (7 figs)
FF: GL - $6.65 (6 figs)
FF: HoT - $9.95 (6 figs + Mjolnir object)
FF: Hulk - $0 with code from physical pack (6 figs)
FF: Supes - $0 with code from physical pack (6 figs, 8 if you count split dials on Supes & Steel)
GF: GL - .45 each during "fig of the week" promo, so $4.50 total (10 figs)
GF: GG - .45 each during "fig of the week" promo, so $4.50 total (10 figs)
That's a total of $29.50 for 60 figs (counting split dial) and Mjolnir. If you drop $30 on the game that gives you a few cents more to pick up another couple of figs on the auction section (easily done).
Now it's true that HoT boosters cost a lot, but you can pick up many of those (and IC figs) on the auction area for cheap. Just don't buy those boosters.
And considering future physical product will be coming with more codes, that's more free online content.
$30 is half the price of a new PS3, Xbox, or PC game release. It's a couple of trade paperbacks. It's about 6 cups of coffee from Starbucks. It's less than 3 physical boosters. If you can justify those purchases, why not HCO?
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Like, for all the talk of it being buggy, or the fact that it only has Fast Forces and Infinity Challenge/Hypertime figures, HCO seems really fun. It's a different metagame, and hearkens back to an older time...which is cool for me cause I played with those figs as a kid.
But I have a MacBook Pro, an iPad and an iPhone. Heck, my computer at work is even an iMac (Not that I'd play here, I'm just saying). Now, with that in mind, you tell me why I'm not playing HCO.
Yeah, although I tried out HCO, I'm not a big online player of anything, and I'd rather devote my spare time to other stuff and play HeroClix IRL. I get nothing from playing things against faceless other people I don't know.
I have good access to local places to play, we have games on Tuesday, Friday, Saturday, and Sunday in the greater kansas city area.
Also, I already paid a crap ton of money for these figures, even the ones that aren't worth money.
I don't need to spend more, for digital versions.
Also I had this misfortune of participating in the Beta. It was so bad, nothing worked right, it really left a bad taste for it.
I assume its up and running smooth now and is very nice. But since i don't need to spend a TON more money for stuff i all ready have, i still have no interest.
I have to agree - I played the beta and skipped out on the launch (wish I hadn't now because I want that War Machine!). My reason: It's too expensive.
Last week I dropped $25 on the game. Here's what I have;
Fantastic Four Starter
Blackest Night Starter
Hulk Fast Forces
Superman Fast Forces
GL Fast Forces
2 of the GL Gravity feed (Boodika and my BOY Salaak!)
And a TON of figures I picked up on the auctions (and I still have enough ClixBux to buy the rest of the GL GF as they come available).
I have somewhere in the ballpark of 70 figures. Now, it's nothing compared to my physical collection (almost 100% of everything ever made)... but it's enough to justify a $25 PC game.
In fact, I made the challenge to two of my friends... one has taken me up on it so far. Drop the $25 (or technically $21.95 or $26.95). Get both starters worth of figs and the GL figs you want. Use your codes to get the Supes and Hulk figs. Then spend the rest on the figs you really want in the auctions.
That's it. If you don't drop another dime you should have a decent selection to play with. Then wait a month or so and use your redemption codes on the FF packs coming out. Ideally, you should be getting 6 new figs every 1-2 months. You can really stretch out that $25 investment that way.
I like Hair10's promotion, and don't forget the upcoming HCO content that will be available at no extra cost with a purchase of the physical product:
Movie Avengers CTD set
Movie Avengers starter
Galactic Guardians Annihilators Fast Forces
Giant-Sized X-men Fast Forces
War of Light Fast Forces
Dark Knight Rises CTD set & marquee figure
Dark Knight Rises starter
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I don't remember the last time I spent more than $10 on a video game.
Even though I'll agree with the expensive thing, I also don't like playing online because I don't think it is nearly as fun as the real deal. Zelif's thoughts are similar to my opinion.
I try to wait for console games to hit $29.95... but that's just me.
I totally understand people who are playing actively. I get to play in a monthly tournament, I run a weekly league (sadly I don't get to play), and I have about 2 hours of time with me in front of my PC about 3 nights a week. So HCO fit my needs. I can understand if it doesn't fit yours.
But I felt I had to share my experience because there are others out whose needs it may meet, but were concerned about pricing. I know I was. And now that I've jumped in, it will NEVER replace standard HC... but it lets me test out figures and fun ideas in a strict environment (it's hard to cheat... or even to accidentally forget a rule) and lets me scratch that itch after I've done my daddy duties for the day.
I'm not paying 2x for the same product...... especially for blind boosters.
Most of what I got was either free (because it was a promo code from the FF pack) or pennies (I don't think I paid more than the equivalent of 50 cents for any one figure).
Also, nothing I purchased was blind. Eveything in my HCO collection is intentional and planned. With their new promos, slightly altered pricing structure, and free content based on physical purchases - a well-informed and careful shopper can really make the most of it.
Free content based on physical purchase is a good start. Do the same with boosters, "buy 2 real boosters, get a virtual booster free" sort of thing would make it go further.
But really, the app takes too much power for me to run. If I could toggle off some of the effects (do I really need running water in the HoT map?) and get it to run on my Eee PC (amusingly my beefiest Windows machine), I might play - or if I could get it to run on my Macbook Pro with its 4 GB of RAM that I use to play all of my other games... then I'd be in.
But, buying the same thing twice and only keeping one of them? That sucks. If HCO ends, you can't keep playing with your friends (unless they release the server code - doubtful), and needing to install Boot Camp and buy Windows to play? Forget it, you lost me.