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Old 07/25/2012, 14:51
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Quote : Originally Posted by TheCheerleader View Post
LoL that Thor was Overpriced then and is Overpriced now. No Figure over 200 Points should have a 16 defense up top.
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I have a Power Cosmic Thor for you if that's all you're looking for


Trolololol. Was once one of my most prized clix. Unfortunatly, That opening 16D just doesnt seem to cut it anymore.

Im looking for the all out Odin Force "lets beat Iron Man to useless in one lazy swing" Thor. Oh, and he remembers how to fly in that arc too.
Now you guys are wanting a playable version as well? lol

We'll get that Thor as soon as we get a comic accurate Spider-Man with his 19DV, Spidey Sense Trait, 3Dam, 11AV, 8 click dial with & at least 5 and RS & Charge. For around the C-note cost, give or take 10pts.
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Old 07/25/2012, 15:23
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Now you guys are wanting a playable version as well? lol
Playable Thor? You think we're missing that?!?!?!?! What the heck happened to these guys?

ul096 U Thor
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Keywords: Celebrity, Deity, Ultimates
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ha016 E Thor
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Keywords: Asgardian, Avengers, Deity, Warrior
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(Special) Trait: Thor can use Super Strength.


avm200 V Thor
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Points: 250
Keywords: Asgardian, Avengers, Deity, Warrior
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avm020 R Thor
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(Attack) The Big Three: When making an attack roll, Thor may roll 3 dice instead of 2 and then choose 1 die to ignore.

(Damage) Rage of a Wayward Son: When Thor begins the turn adjacent to an opposing character that's 75 points or more, at the beginning of your turn Thor makes a close combat attack as a free action if able and uses Battle Fury this turn.


avm004 E Thor
Team: Avengers Initiative
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(Attack) Mighty Mjolnir: When Thor makes a ranged combat attack, an opposing character he hits is knocked back equal to the damage taken (up to a maximum 3 squares) if not otherwise knocked back.


cw038 Thor
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(Damage) Summon Asgardian Blizzard: Characters with the "standard damage" or "tiny size" symbol can't target characters 7 or more squares away. Modify all other characters' speed values by -2 if they begin an action within 6 squares of Thor.

We have plenty of playable Thor's available.

I assume the Old Tyme Thor is going to be a remake of Ultimate Thor with a shorter life...

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Old 07/25/2012, 15:29
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hopefully he has traited willpower. if Iron Man can get yet another version with Indomitable then Thor deserves it as well, especially in a set where every version appears to be at their best.
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Playable Thor? You think we're missing that?!?!?!?!
Sorry you missed the joke

They were asking about a grounded Thor with Power Cosmic, and he had to be playable.
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Quote : Originally Posted by Mr. Cranberry View Post
Sorry you missed the joke

They were asking about a grounded Thor with Power Cosmic, and he had to be playable.
Oh, gotcha.

There are a lot of complaints about Thor and his "missing " which is weird considering we have tons of them.

Sorry to lump you in with "those guys". Carry on...

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Old 07/25/2012, 17:20
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I saw Thing from anniversary set too. He is tearing up the street and the manhole cover ssays Hillside NewJjersey he is Indomn. And 82 points.
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Probably not my favorite Thor clix, but I thought the CW CTD Thor was pretty much a perfect representation of Thor. Look at that dial and tell me that's not Thor, I dare you!

cw202 Thor
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Keywords: Asgardian, Avengers, Deity
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(Attack) Art Thou Too Craven To Fight?: Give Thor a free action if he has no action tokens and choose an opposing character within Thor's range and line of fire that is not adjacent to any other characters. During its next turn, that character must attack Thor or be given a move action.

(Defense) I Am No Mortal!: Thor can use Toughness and Willpower.


Thor flys in with a mighty rush of lightning (RS & PW), throws his hammer at ya (RCE), calls forth the storms (FB) and then he smacks you in the face with his hammer (EW). He then runs at the enemy (Charge) and takes on all villains (Quake). He starts out pretty dang durable with Inv, once he takes damage, he starts to take the fight more serious (Imp) and at the end he won't give up (Toughness w/ WP) and goes into his Warriors Madness (BF).

And to top that all off, he has a special power where he talks smack to opposing characters about how much a ##### they are. That's Thor right there, if ya ask me. lol

He may not be what you want from your Thor heroclix, but he's everything a Thor heroclix should be.



Would he be better with Indom or Power Cosmic and just Toughness instead of a special defence power, sure... but by using WP selectively, it gives the character more of a story feel.



EDIT: I just wanted to point out that this Thor is also (IMO) The best AE for Avenger medic supreme Donald Blake
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Quote : Originally Posted by Thorngren View Post
Probably not my favorite Thor clix, but I thought the CW CTD Thor was pretty much a perfect representation of Thor. Look at that dial and tell me that's not Thor, I dare you!

cw202 Thor
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(Attack) Art Thou Too Craven To Fight?: Give Thor a free action if he has no action tokens and choose an opposing character within Thor's range and line of fire that is not adjacent to any other characters. During its next turn, that character must attack Thor or be given a move action.

(Defense) I Am No Mortal!: Thor can use Toughness and Willpower.


Thor flys in with a mighty rush of lightning (RS & PW), throws his hammer at ya (RCE), calls forth the storms (FB) and then he smacks you in the face with his hammer (EW). He then runs at the enemy (Charge) and takes on all villains (Quake). He starts out pretty dang durable with Inv, once he takes damage, he starts to take the fight more serious (Imp) and at the end he won't give up (Toughness w/ WP) and goes into his Warriors Madness (BF).

And to top that all off, he has a special power where he talks smack to opposing characters about how much a ##### they are. That's Thor right there, if ya ask me. lol

He may not be what you want from your Thor heroclix, but he's everything a Thor heroclix should be.



Would he be better with Indom or Power Cosmic and just Toughness instead of a special defence power, sure... but by using WP selectively, it gives the character more of a story feel.



EDIT: I just wanted to point out that this Thor is also (IMO) The best AE for Avenger medic supreme Donald Blake

I can't tell if your serious or not lol? In my mind Thor capping at a 10 av, one clix of 18d and only one click over 3 natural damage? Also, 2 clix of 2 damage as his 2 last clix? If you want to play the "feels like Thor card", when Thor is on his last legs is when he pulls something epic and swings for the fences. 2 damage doesn't really sound like a raging thunder god to me. And no super strength anywhere? 004 Thor from avm also had no SS, but he had that awesome hammer knock back power. so that made up for it. Also, while RS/PW combo is perfect Thor, he doesn't start with it. In the 800 something issues of Thor Ive read, Ive never seen him have to stop and take a breather after his first attack.
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How about a thor that can vaporizes Sentriod?? He did in the comics. And we got a figure that more or less cancels the threat of IG, why not a fig that cancels the threat of Sentroid?
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I can't tell if your serious or not lol? In my mind Thor capping at a 10 av, one clix of 18d and only one click over 3 natural damage? Also, 2 clix of 2 damage as his 2 last clix? If you want to play the "feels like Thor card", when Thor is on his last legs is when he pulls something epic and swings for the fences. 2 damage doesn't really sound like a raging thunder god to me. And no super strength anywhere? 004 Thor from avm also had no SS, but he had that awesome hammer knock back power. so that made up for it. Also, while RS/PW combo is perfect Thor, he doesn't start with it. In the 800 something issues of Thor Ive read, Ive never seen him have to stop and take a breather after his first attack.


I made a point of saying he was not my favorite Thor heroclix, but the one I felt was the best representation of him. And as for Super Strength... when was the last time you saw Thor use something other than his Hammer or fists to hit someone with?

As for the taking a breather remark, when's the last time you saw DAredevil take a breather in the middle of battle? Dosn't mean he should have Indom. But hey, thats just my opinion yo, take it or leave it. I just wannted to point out a figure that used Willpower as a spercial but not the whole dial and how I thought it still captured the figure rather well.



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I agree with some of the comments about Thor and Super Strength. Is Thor super strong. Absolutely. But rarely does it ever come into play. He's always hitting people with Mjolnir. I imagine a trait that gives him some kind of bonus Close Combat Damage. Like maybe Close Combat Expert, but he couldn't use it with Charge though is the only issue there.

And I could see a trait that lets Thor shrug off some damage from a Hypersonic Speed attack. Let him nerf HSS characters a little like Iron Man now nerfs relics and the Gauntlet.
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How about a thor that can vaporizes Sentriod?? He did in the comics. And we got a figure that more or less cancels the threat of IG, why not a fig that cancels the threat of Sentroid?
So a power that gives adjacent models Earthbound and removes team abilities and movement powers?
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I made a point of saying he was not my favorite Thor heroclix, but the one I felt was the best representation of him. And as for Super Strength... when was the last time you saw Thor use something other than his Hammer or fists to hit someone with?

As for the taking a breather remark, when's the last time you saw DAredevil take a breather in the middle of battle? Dosn't mean he should have Indom. But hey, thats just my opinion yo, take it or leave it. I just wannted to point out a figure that used Willpower as a spercial but not the whole dial and how I thought it still captured the figure rather well.



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I FULLY agree with a cool power (as I pointed out with AVM 004, who did this wonderfully imo. Its the reason i play the figure) instead of super strength, as long as that cool power is present. Also, Im sorry if it seemed like I was attacking you. I truly wasn't. The fan boy got out again. In my mind there are certain aspects of characters that just should be included to make the character feel whole, regaurdless of game play perspectives. For example characters like cap and lantern should just automatically be traited willpower. Its their main character trait! For GL its the reason his ring works. At the same time, having these huge power house characters (Thor, Black Adam etc) both from a comic and game play perspective just feels like a big question mark. Thors fought armys at once. Adam travels 5000 years to get back to earth and almost immediatly start taking names. oops. There's the Fan boy again...
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How about a thor that can vaporizes Sentriod?? He did in the comics. And we got a figure that more or less cancels the threat of IG, why not a fig that cancels the threat of Sentroid?
EXACTLY what I said hahaha! First thought upon seeing Sentroid, "Where's the Thor that kills this?"
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hopefully he has traited willpower. if Iron Man can get yet another version with Indomitable then Thor deserves it as well, especially in a set where every version appears to be at their best.
Well ... to be fair, damage reducers are just as important (if not more important) to Iron Man than they are to Thor. What defines Iron Man? His armor! Ergo an almost full-dial of damage reducers is a must, plus some decent ranged combat skills. And, yes, Iron Man deserves indomitable. When he "overextends" himself, it's not really him he's overextending. It's his armor. Not many other characters in comics can eat a sandwhich or read a book or go to the bathroom during battle without losing any combat effectiveness. Tony Stark doesn't even need to be sober, doesn't even need to be present at the battle for Iron Man to be effective. So willpower kinda makes sense, but with a full dial of damage reducers, there's nowhere left to put it.

Now, what defines Thor? Well, I'd say Mjolnir. So the first thing you need to think about with any Thor dial is the hammer. Charge, Running Shot, Flurry, Force Blast, Pulse Wave (for the lightning), Energy Shield/Deflection. So that's what the designers concentrate on. Now, for his defense slot, should he have damage reducers? Of course! But the damage reducers themselves don't define the character. And more important than Impervious, or Invulnerability, or Toughness, what should be important to Thor is a long dial. With a long dial, and because the character doesn't absolutely require damage reducers in every slot, then there is plenty of room to give Thor Willpower on the dial. And I gotta say, if you give every character who merits Willpower at some point in their dial the Indomitable symbol ... what's the point with having Willpower as an ability in the first place? The dial designers have to draw the line somewhere. Unfortunately, the line seems to have been drawn somewhere before the guy who fell into a time vortex battling Doctor Doom for all eternity.

And someone mentioned a "comic-accurate Spider-Man" needing Indomitable? I gotta say that I disagree. Batman=Indomitable. The Thing=Indomitable. And even though I just argued against it, Thor=Indomitable. What Spider-Man deserves is an enhanced version of Super-Senses as a trait, some Toughness, and Willpower on the last couple of clicks. Batman, Thing, Thor - these guys never stop. They just keep on going. Spider-Man gets tired, he gets discouraged, and he stops fighting. He resigns himself to his fate, to losing the battle. Only then, after he's beaten, bloody and broken ... after all hope seems lost ... he rallies. He perseveres even when any sane person would have the good sense to just lay down and die. That's Spider-man.
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