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Old 04/23/2004, 03:35
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In a one on one battle, with no terrain of ANY sort, who do you feel would win, and why?

The combatants...Captain America and Hawkman.

Talk amongst yourselves.
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Old 04/23/2004, 03:48
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I'd say, with Cap going up against similar characters, he gets my vote. But I don't know a whole lot about Hawkman, other than he's a killer close combat guy.
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You know what? This fight is so evenly match that I couldn't pick a winner.

- They're both excellent hand-to-hand combat fighters
- Both extremely tough

- Hawkman has his flight
- Cap has his acrobatics

- Hawkman has his weapons, usually a big, fricken mace
- Cap has his shield

- Hawkman has his Nth metal
- Cap has his vibranium/adamantium (what ever it's made out of) shield

- Both have combat savvy, meaning they've got the experience and the brains to take almost anyone; thousands of years for Hawkman, and intensive military training for Cap.

Most people I believe would give this fight to Cap, but to be perfectly honest, I don't see this fight going anywhere further than a tie.
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In a one on one battle, with no terrain of ANY sort, who do you feel would win, and why?

The combatants...Captain America and Hawkman.

Talk amongst yourselves.
I always have a hard time seeing Capt. lose to anyone....BUT I dunno' given Carters knowledge and history, plus with the nth metal advantage.....I dunno. I see Capt. taking it inside quickly to counter the flying and then just wailing on Carter until he drops......

I give it to Capt....barely.

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i would have to give this one to cap more than 50% of the time. having Falcon as a partner means that Cap is ready to fight an aerial opponent, and while hawkman has more experience than Cap, i beleive that Cap's will to win is just a bit more than Hawkmans.

Also, Hawkman will not be expecting Cap's sheild to absorb every hit he takes at it. he will expect it to crack and eventually break under the assault.


i only give this to Cap more than 50% of the time because of knowledge of similar people (Falcon), and his indomidable will to win and perserver
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Old 04/23/2004, 06:55
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Nice match up, Cap24!

I always felt Hawkman was the JSA's Captain America in a lot of ways. Their leadership, willpower and no-nonsense battle tactics/prowess are practically identical.

Perhaps their "meeting" would go like this:


As Hawkman met his opponent, he recognized the stars and stripes on Captain America's costume and guessed he was probably a good guy. Wanting to avoid conflict if possible and to get a "bird's eye view" to plan his next move, Carter Hall immediately took to the air. Just like his namesake, Hawkman circled above his quarry for a time, appraised his combatant and made some diving feints at him to test his reflexes. Cap didn't flinch. Deciding to go through the small arsenal he had on him at the time, Hawkman began to pick the proper "instrument" for his diving assault. While a blunt or edged weapon felt most at home in his hand, Hawkman realized that Cap's shield was the perfect protection from such devices. Therefore, Hawkman felt for a net or trident he could use to tangle or trip up the red, white and blue boyscout below him. Carter figured that once he had his opponent off his feet, he'd grab him by the ankle, fly him high above the ground and threaten to drop him unless he yielded the victory. At least, that's what Hawkman planned to do.

Unfortunately, Hawkman never got the chance to try the maneuver. The whole time Hawkman had been circling overhead, Cap had been doing his own share of "analyzing." While at the ready in a defensive position for an attack from above, Captain America was not fooled by feints and "tricky tactics." And, while Cap noticed his worthy opponent's muscular physique, speed and nimbleness in flight, and impressive array of somewhat archaic weaponry, he didn't focus on those things. No, ol' Cap was trying to figure out his opponent's flight pattern. He had no intention of allowing the winged fella to get in the first hit. Once Cap got a chance, he'd take it.

The chance came. While Hawkman let his attention shift ever so slightly from his grounded enemy below to picking the right weapon, Cap did the unthinkable. In Hawkman's mind, Cap's shield was the only thing between his mace and Cap's face. He couldn't fathom the possibility that Cap might throw his only defensive weapon away and risk losing it and the match. Therefore, when Cap's arm suddenly shot out and launched the invulnerable disc threw the air in a surprisingly fast and accurate trajectory, Hawkman only just realized he was flying into it's path before it hit him square on. The force of it was unbelievable. Carter's weapons went flying. His breath left him. His body and wings went limp from the impact. By the time Hawkman started to recover, he saw the ground coming up at him fast, but not as fast as Captain America. Cap leapt through the air, caught his shield and put his full body weight behind it as he slammed into Hawkman one last time before Carter even hit the dirt. That second blow was probably enough to ground Hawkman at least the length of a long nap, but, if not, Cap was ready to pounce if Hawkman stirred. He didn't.

Victory= Captain America


There's no hiding the fact that I'm a huge Captain America fan. I simply think he's the best at what he does without the aid of super-powers. While he is more agile than normal humans, I don't believe he's any more so than Hawkman. I've really come to like Hawkman a lot, especially so since I've been reading all the back issues of the current JSA run. Before that, I barely knew who Hawkman was or why he did what he did. I could see him defeating Captain America once and a while. I can just see Cap winning more often. So, I just wrote what I felt could be a POSSIBLE turn of events if two of my favorites ever had to duke it out.
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Nice writing Rocket! I could see that happening, though in the 2nd encounter I could see Carter than countering Cap's "range" with the shield just as well!

These are my two favorite characters from Marvel and DC, so I could care less who wins, I just wanna see it happen! LOL!
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Cap.

Hawks good, but Cap can hit him at range with the Sheild for more damage than HM is likely to inflict with anything he can throw.

Also, once they close, I would give Cap the edge in the willpower and sheer bloody-mindedness stakes...

So, much as I like Hawkman,

Cap to win.

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Noman, in a close combat battle with no weapons, Hawkman is too savage for Cap, and a better fighter IMO.
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Cap would win...I mean if Batman can find a way to take out the Hawkman...IE in the new Batman/Superman comic then Cap should as well.
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I think Hawkman would be taken off-guard the first time Cap threw his shield. This is assuming he doesn't know about Captain America. Shields tend to be defensive... seeing one being tossed, rebounded off the melon and back in Cap's hands tends to be a little confusing/painful.
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